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October 5, 2005
Beta2 candidate builds available for testing
We have a set of Beta2 candidate builds that we need to put through the paces today. Here are the links to the builds:
Firefox
Thunderbird
Things to test:
*Logging into any webmail account, financial sites, banking sites
*Installing extensions and themes
*Software update
The following bugs were addressed in this build: Bug #311099, Bug #311022, Bug #309784, Bug #311111.
Please enter comments directly in Bugzilla if you have an account, or post the blog comments section. thanks!
Posted by marcia at October 5, 2005 10:22 AM
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Is it wanted that TB and FF don't free Memory on minimizing anymore. Running both of them (each at ~60MB) isn't too nice when you only have "only" 256MB of ram. (W2k)
Posted by: Morty at October 5, 2005 11:26 AM
Morty, that's known, and it's not a bug.
People complained that Firefox was sluggish when it was restored so the feature that "trims on minimize" was disabled on windows because of windows' crappy VM system.
So Firefox will always be fast to restore.
I'm not sure whether the pref still works, but try setting the "config.trim_on_minimize" pref to "true" (Create it, because it doesn't exist by default).
Posted by: Caleb at October 5, 2005 11:46 AM
I've been using the linux nightlies for a few weeks, and today I can't update from the 20051003 build properly. First it says the patch failed, then it does a full download. It still shows 20051003 in the UA and it still wants to update when I ask it.
Posted by: ant at October 5, 2005 12:01 PM
@Caleb:
I don't think you can blame the Windows VMM for this problem. I haven't seen other Windows applications behave this way. It seems to me that perhaps Mozilla/Gecko is thrashing the heap by constantly allocating/deallocating memory for every little operation. Keeping the OS from trimming the working set size is a bad hack. I hope the source of this problem is fixed sometime this century.
Posted by: Remy at October 5, 2005 12:10 PM
People have been posting reports of login crashes on Asa's blog entry http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2005/10/beta_2_close_at.html
It's happening to me too: Whenever I login to my.yahoo.com in order to rate a news story on it... crash! It happened with yesterday's nightly, it happens with today's Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b5) Gecko/20051005 Firefox/1.4.1
I've sent several Talkback crashes.
(Do Talkback crashes go into bugzilla?)
Posted by: S Page at October 5, 2005 12:47 PM
After installing this (using the exe installer) over a previous nightly build on Windows XP, I now have two entries for Mozilla Firefox in Add/Remove Programs, labeled 1.4 and 1.4.1
Trying to uninstall the one labeled 1.4 results in an "Uninstall log not found" error message.
Posted by: Aaron Nowack at October 5, 2005 1:09 PM
Oct 04 builds have a broken about:plugins page and Flash sometimes doesn't work. Both these issues are fixed in the Oct 05 builds.
Posted by: marcoos at October 5, 2005 1:51 PM
The extension image zoom is broken.
I have to load it with the nightly tool, puts the following message on the bottom status bar...
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Most other things work fine when forced to run with the "Nightly" tool.
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Posted by: Dan SMart at October 5, 2005 1:53 PM
ant: that's one of the fixed bugs
Posted by: David Naylor at October 5, 2005 1:56 PM
Actually, a lot of high-memory windows program exhibit the unresponsive-on-restore-from-minimize thing. Word being a good example.
Open a large Word doc then minimize the window, do other high mem stuff for an hour then restore the Word window. You'll see it takes some time to re-allocate the memory it was using. Eclipse is another good example.
Personally, I explicitly turned off the "config.trim_on_minimize" pref in FF and TB and they're much more responsive.
Obviously, if you have < 512MB RAM on Windows this can be an issue but if you have at least 512MB RAM then windows seems to behave fine for me (and I use a lot of RAM).
Posted by: Jeffrey Bacon at October 5, 2005 2:53 PM
FYI, the my.yahoo.com bug is: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311269
Posted by: marcia at October 5, 2005 3:50 PM
config.trim_on_minimize":
Thanks, it works. But wouldn't make sense to do some kind of if(freemem
Posted by: Morty at October 6, 2005 12:01 AM
Hello,
I am french it's why I don't understand all in your website the english version for beta.
I ask you if it's possible to test the french or english Beta 2 of the Mozila software
Thanks.
Posted by: Killpawns at October 6, 2005 7:45 AM
Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at b2.mail.yahoo.com. This is a Yahoo! Business Mail Account
So far I'm able to access other Yahoo! Services
Posted by: KenS at October 6, 2005 9:02 AM
Ok, now I'm in, but I've never had trouble accessing Yahoo! mail until the above happened.
Posted by: KenS at October 6, 2005 9:05 AM
KenS,
I could not get into yahoo business mail for about an hour this morning. I'm using FF 1.0.6. It was them.
Posted by: Alex at October 6, 2005 7:09 PM
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Posted by: baris at October 7, 2005 3:27 AM
Hey man...
I'm testing the FF and the load its too slow...
memory drain its too hi, (i have 512 mb with xp pro as SO) making some "Lag" on complex pages...
So... Can you make someting about file exporting on TB?
i like all Mozilla product's but i cant leave my M$ Outlook in a not-way-back choice....
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