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September 2, 2005

Some pre-beta weekend testing for our nightly Firefox testers

We are getting ever closer to our Beta 1 candidate, so if you are up for some weekend testing, feel free to download these builds and take them for a test spin.

Windows, Mac, Linux

If you want to test a build that comes out on Saturday, Sunday, or Monday, you can always go to the Latest Branch Build directory. If you do so, please make sure to note the date of the build that you are testing.

Things to try out/test:

*Logging into any banking or financial sites
*Logging into Yahoo Mail, GMail, Hotmail accounts
*Installing some extensions, including Adblock
*Download some files
*If you are using the Mac, we have had some reports of issues with the toolbars being greyed out. Need to see if this is a Mac only bug. Bug 306899 is the bug that has been filed to address that issue.

As always, please check Bugzilla before filing any new bugs. Feel free to add any information to the comments of this blog post if you are unsure about whether to file a bug, the QA team can investigate and get a bug on file if necessary.

As always, thanks for your continued help in making Firefox and Thunderbird the best products ever!

Posted by marcia at September 2, 2005 5:44 PM

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Official branding will be turned on before beta, right?

Posted by: Rishi at September 2, 2005 6:33 PM

Rishi, yes, official branding will be turned on before beta (sometime in the next few days.)

- A

Posted by: Asa Dotzler at September 2, 2005 7:21 PM

I'm using the Mac Branch Build, And after installing an exension, The Extension window is BLANK.
Closing the window and then re-opening it displays all the installed extensions - Has this bug been filed? - Using Latest Mac Branch Build.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050902 Firefox/1.0+ - Build ID: 2005090206

Posted by: Rmpmw at September 2, 2005 8:00 PM

Is a modified version of adblock (compatible with 1.5beta) hosted somewhere?

Posted by: vfwlkr at September 2, 2005 9:42 PM

What is the correct thing to do we if we think existing bugs should be blockers? For example, bug 267422 basically breaks printing (you can't switch to Landscape), but it doesn't have blocking-aviary1.5 set.

Posted by: Matthew Wilson at September 3, 2005 8:04 AM

vfwlkr, a fixed version of Adblock is available here:
http://aasted.org/adblock/viewtopic.php?t=2264&sid=5c7b4bb21e9c4dd9b93ae614d0d9c265

That also fixes bug 306754 (only audio, no video in Quicktime).

Posted by: Steffen at September 3, 2005 10:52 AM

Rmpmw: I will look into this Mac bug when I get back on Tuesday, don't have my Mac machine with me. Thanks for pointing it out.

Posted by: marcia at September 4, 2005 9:36 AM

Matthew: Looks like the blocking flags are set correctly for Bug 267422. It has been plussed for 1.8b5.

Posted by: marcia at September 4, 2005 9:41 AM

Thanks. I couldn't see how the blocking flags were meant to work (and the "Help" link doesn't even mention them).

Posted by: Matthew Wilson at September 4, 2005 10:03 AM

Upon attempting to login to the Natwest online banking service at http://www.natwest.com , I receive the error message 'The Internet browser you are using is not supported by OnLine Banking. Please use a recent version of Internet Explorer, Netscape, Mozilla or AOL (PC only)'. This was using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050904 Firefox/1.0+.

Posted by: Chris Blore at September 4, 2005 4:06 PM

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Blogger's "BlogThis!" tool quit working recently for me.

Seems like an off-by-one error?

It's supposed to pick up the URL, and put that into its URL field -- instead it picks up the text name of the page and puts that in the URL field.

It's supposed to pick up the text name of the page and put that in its second field. INstead anything hilighted goes in there.

It's supposed to pick up any hilighted text and copy it into the text field; instead it seems to put that in the field above it.

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javascript:popw='';Q='';x=document;y=window;if(x.selection) {Q=x.selection.createRange().text;} else if (y.getSelection) {Q=y.getSelection();} else if (x.getSelection) {Q=x.getSelection();}popw = y.open('http://www.blogger.com/blog_this.pyra?t=' + escape(Q) + '&u=' + escape(location.href) + '&n=' + escape(document.title),'bloggerForm','scrollbars=no,width=475,height=300,top=175,left=75,status=yes,resizable=yes');if (!document.all) T = setTimeout('popw.focus()',50);void(0);

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050902

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I've experienced a number of software update oddities caused by a

(deliberately) malformed update.xml file. I post them because, even though I

guess it's rare for downloads to become corrupted nowadays it can still

happen. Also, I wonder about the potential to exploit these bugs by

malicious folks. I'll post all of my observations here and then wait for

someone to tell me which should be filed as bugs.



Basically, in order to find these bugs I set the app.update.url.override

pref to point to an update.xml that I created on my local drive (and, by the

way, are we sure we want the update url to be able to point to a local file?

There is also no notification to the user of where the update is coming

from...). I pulled the update.xml file from the normal update path

(https://aus2.mozilla.org...) and then tweaked it a bit. Below, when I refer

to "spinning forever" I mean that the download indicator is spinning and the

rest of the UI remains responsive but no further program action occurs.

Here's what I found:



(Oh, some acronyms: SU=Software Update; PP=Partial Patch; FP=Full Patch)



1. Removing the "hashValue" value completely from PP and FP tags

causes SU to download PP and then spin forever. An incorrect "hashValue"

does not cause this to happen, but see #2 below.



2. An incorrect "hashValue" value in the PP causes a message to be displayed

alerting the user to the corrupted download. SU then attempts to pull the

FP. If the "hashValue" value is incorrect on the FP tag then SU does

not alter its message and continues to spin forever.



3. Pointing the update "url" value in the PP and FP tags to a nonexistent

internet address or local file causes the "unable to verify the

integrity..." message to appear and then enters a spin forever state. No

message about manually updating is ever shown.



4. Changing the "size" value does not cause a failure of integrity

validation. Nor does it seem to change the label of the progress of the

download ("xxx of 356k downloaded")... Is this value necessary?



5. The "url" value can be set to any type of file! I made it download the

banner graphic from the New York Times. I didn't fake a hash code for it, so

I just removed the "hashFunction", "hashValue", and "size" values from the

file. The verification failed, but the download completed and then entered

the spin forever state. The graphic was downloaded and saved as a mar

file in the updates\0\ folder. A simple change of file extensions was

all it took to show that the banner was indeed downloaded. I guess I mention

this one because it seems like an easy way to exploit the SU mechanism.

Maybe we need to just restrict it to mar files?



6. Finally, any of the bugs described above cause weird changes to the

"Help/Check for Updates" menu item. Sometimes errors cause the download

indicator on the menu to spin forever and sometimes the menu item changes to

"Apply this update". I imagine that once the above bugs et fixed then the

menu will behave a little more appropriately.



Anyway, like I said, I'll wait to file bugs until someone tells me to just

in case any of this behavior is by design.

Posted by: Ben at September 5, 2005 11:19 PM

Using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050905 Firefox/1.0+ - Build ID: 2005090506

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Posted by: Tony Wilson at September 6, 2005 1:36 AM

Sorry in case of spamming - just found this in the Beta 1 with official branding:
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Posted by: Morty at September 7, 2005 9:35 AM

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Posted by: young boy at December 27, 2005 4:12 AM

Rmpmw: I will look into this Mac bug when I get back on Tuesday, don't have my Mac machine with me. Thanks for pointing it out.

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