Comments: firefox 25,000,000

Hi Asa, great news! :-)

I have two questions:
1. You promised download statistics of localized versions some weeks ago. Will they be available some day?
2. Will you reset the download counter, when Firefox 1.0.1 has been released? (Because many Firefox 1.0 user will also download version 1.0.1 to update their system.)


--Thomas

Posted by Thomas Kaschwig at February 16, 2005 2:47 AM

The number of 1.0.1 downloads is going to be a key issue. If those numbers are substantially less than the 1.0 one then we will have failed to get the "secure browsing" message across.

Posted by Phil Randal at February 16, 2005 3:01 AM

Thomas:

Localised stats: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/007505.html
To count the number of 1.0.1 downloads from non-Firefox users compared to updates they just need to not include anyone downloading the new version with a Firefox 1.0 useragent or those who upgrade through the automatic update mechanism.

Posted by Dave at February 16, 2005 3:48 AM

Updated. ;-)

Posted by minghong at February 16, 2005 4:15 AM

"To count the number of 1.0.1 downloads from non-Firefox users compared to updates they just need to not include anyone downloading the new version with a Firefox 1.0 useragent or those who upgrade through the automatic update mechanism."

This I think is important so we can keep an accurate count.

Posted by David Naylor at February 16, 2005 4:27 AM

Dave: Thank you! I read nearly all of Asa's postings, but I have missed this one.:-)

David: Many people download Firefox from FTP servers, and the FTP protocol has no useragent or something similar.

--Thomas

Posted by Thomas Kaschwig at February 16, 2005 4:43 AM

"they just need to not include anyone downloading the new version with a Firefox 1.0 useragent"

What about FTP and bit torrent programs? I usually download with WS_FTP.

Posted by superyooser at February 16, 2005 5:57 AM

. o O ( Asa shouldn't make screen shots while ClearType is enabled )

Posted by AndersH at February 16, 2005 6:07 AM

what do you use to create your graphs?

Posted by Harpreet Singh at February 16, 2005 7:06 AM

Asa,

Any comment on whether the downloads count that you have been reporting includes all the nightly development version downloads? You mentioned yesterday that it was looking to be "the best single day of downloads in months". What I'm wondering is if people are already getting ready to move to 1.0.1, and if they are, is that being counted toward "total firefox downloads"?

Posted by Kevin Hamilton at February 16, 2005 9:51 AM

w00t but I still will lose my bet I guess. My bet for €10,- with a friend of mine is that firefox will 50% of the market share 3 months after the 1.5 is released.

Posted by Joël Kuiper at February 16, 2005 9:51 AM

Hey, Scoble just congratulated the Firefox team.
Pretty cool, coming from Redmond, uh?

Posted by themask at February 16, 2005 10:29 AM

I very roughly trended these figures through the 1-year anniversary of Firefox 1.0, resulting in estimated 81 million total downloads. Under the right circumstances, and with enough push, I don't think 100 million is out of the question. Now that's popular! (meanwhile MS thinks it's big news that a paltry 9 million or so have downloaded XP SP2 since its release!)

Posted by Zizzybaloobah at February 16, 2005 11:06 AM

Several people have requested information about localization figures. I would also be interested in having access to the raw data from which the graphs are generated, to do my own analysies etc.. Perhaps there already is a source for this data (I haven't been able to find it). If not, I would appreciate it if you could make this data available (its rather tedious to get the numbers from the graph...).

-Alex

Posted by Alex Weeks at February 16, 2005 9:20 PM

Great.

Fuck the IE. :-D

Posted by Stefan Kähmzow at February 17, 2005 1:36 AM

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!!! C.O.N.G.R.A.T.U.L.A.T.I.O.N !!!

Go further with this lovely Project, and beat M's IE ;-)

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Posted by Dan at February 17, 2005 2:15 AM

Congratulations! IMHO, you're doing a job of global importance. Regarding the 'balance of power' it's really necessary to decrease MS' concentration of power, giving it to where it belongs: to the users.
windows' and especially ie's possibilites of backdoors allow the owner of these technologies to gather a lot of personal information - the key to power in the 21st century's information society. numerous news have shown that these thoughts are not paranoid. thank you guys again for working on the right side!

Posted by pinky'n brain at February 17, 2005 4:01 AM

heise.de, a big german computer magazine has postet his actual browser statistiks:

Februar
FF 37 %
IE 33 %
MZ 10 %
OP 6 %

We take back the web :-)

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/56468

Posted by Fasse at February 17, 2005 4:09 AM

IE RULES! Firefox is passing fad! My question is how many of the 25 million that downloaded it are actually using it daily or just tried and uninstalled it? How many are repeat downloads. My guess is the actual number is users is much lower than people are leading on... Food for thought.

Posted by deepthroat at February 17, 2005 7:24 AM

Lol, it's actually much higher. The download number does not count unofficial mirrors, user sharing, or sites that have multiple installs from one download. In my office FF is the primary browser with over 100 installs off of one download.

Posted by Kevin at February 17, 2005 7:36 AM

I downloaded FF several times at diff. bata release levels. I ended up downloading and using Deepnet Explorer. I found it much easer and beter than either FF or IE.

Posted by Sambooe at February 17, 2005 7:52 AM

I love Firefox »-(¯`v´¯)-»

Posted by Skogstiv at February 17, 2005 5:05 PM

Probably sillt to ask but I suppose the bulk of the Official 25 million downloads are for the Windows platforms...would be cool to see a breakdown of the platform downloads as well.

Posted by Jack Smith at February 18, 2005 8:10 AM

Probably silly to ask but I suppose the bulk of the Official 25 million downloads are for the Windows platforms...would be cool to see a breakdown of the platform downloads as well.

Posted by Jack Smith at February 18, 2005 8:10 AM

For everyday browsing, FF rocks. Why after trying the browser and seeing the inherent ease that you can browse, would anybody switch back, except for those corporate user who have a corp. IT policy that is dripping w/ Microsuck's java engine and the like? Those are the only pages I have any difficulty with and it only happens on a couple of the pages I have to visit. I go days w/o having to launch IE and then only for the offending page.

Posted by Magician at February 18, 2005 11:21 AM

I am hoping that somehow Firefox can utilize Internet Explorer's rendering engine on the fly like the new AOL browser is supposed to do.

Posted by Syd at February 18, 2005 3:03 PM

heise.de, a big german computer magazine has postet his actual browser statistiks:

User-Agent Feburar 2005
Firefox 37,2 %
IE 6.0x 30,2 %
Gecko 10,5 %
unknown 7,5 %
Opera 7.x 6,2 %
Apple Safari 2,4 %
KDE Konqueror 2,4 %
E 5.5x 1,8 %
IE 5.0x 1,0 %
Opera 8.x 0,9 %

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/56468

take back the web

Posted by Tobias Momber at February 20, 2005 1:02 AM
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