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Comments: Firefox, again (modulo name)

Heh! Well yesterday I tried SeaMonkey again (for the first time since the 0.7 days).
It looks like I could get through a day of browsing with it now.

Posted by Martijn at March 17, 2004 5:45 PM

Firefox does need a little polish. But I think Seamonkey is starting to fall into disrepair a bit as well, requiring some polish of it's own.

There was a discussion about this on #mozillazine perhaps 2hrs ago.

Posted by Robert Accettura at March 17, 2004 5:58 PM

And here I thought I was making a positive post about firefox (having upgraded it from "not usable for more than 20 minutes due to lack of DOM inspector" to "I should take a closer look in a week").

I'm not saying the lack of polish is a terrible thing or anything (in pre-1.0 software!). As long as the bugs get fixed, of course. ;)

Posted by Boris at March 17, 2004 6:01 PM

Boris: When you decide on a new theme, please post about that as well -- I'm also trying to switch from Seamonkey to Firefox and a better theme would be handy :).

Posted by Alex at March 17, 2004 10:55 PM

pain relief at:
http://themes.mozdev.org/themes/graymodern.html

Posted by bernd at March 18, 2004 1:37 AM

I thought it was just me that had to search for the download link on the Firefox product page! Like you, my brain automatically "filters" sidebars :)

Posted by Rob... at March 18, 2004 3:15 AM

The Default downloads folder is the desktop - AFAIK it's default Mac behaviour anyway, and has been copied for Windows because the resultant downloads are easy to find. If you're computer-savvy enough to navigate explorer for an alternate downloads folder, then you're computer savvy enough to change the default.

I take it you tried the official 0.8, and not the latest nightlies - there's a fair amount of new stuff gone in to them since 0.8.

Posted by Doug at March 18, 2004 4:17 AM

Doug, what are you talking about? Desktop? Mac behavior? Windows? Explorer? None of those are applicable in this situation.

And yes, I tried the official 0.8. I mistrust nightlies on general principle unless I've been tracking checkins to them (having been badly burned by bugs in them before), and I've not had the time to do that for Firefox.

Posted by Boris at March 18, 2004 9:42 AM

Ignore my other comment - misread what you wrote...

Those of us using firefox on a regular basis have found the burning edge to be a wonderful resource for tracking changes between nightlies.

http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/

Posted by Doug at March 19, 2004 3:56 PM

ohh, they had a reason for not allowing adding helper applications? what is that reason?

Posted by christian biesinger at March 21, 2004 5:23 PM

I'm familiar with the burning edge, Doug. That doesn't quite provide the sort of info I'm looking for, which is _all_ checkins that went into whatever I'm using.

biesi, I think the reasoning was that the adding UI is very complicated for users and would never get used and that it's simpler if we just remember what they do the first time they encounter the type (and populate the list this way).

Posted by Boris at March 28, 2004 9:24 PM

For both Gnome and KDE, files on the desktop are stored in ~/Desktop (true for KDE for a long time, true for Gnome since 2.4, iirc).

Posted by James at March 31, 2004 9:29 PM

I don't use GNOME or KDE and don't plan to start.

Posted by Boris at March 31, 2004 9:33 PM

I have not been convinced to try Firefox. The screenshots all look too fancy and peoples' comments seem to concentrate on 1. simple ui (I love all the prefs in moz) 2. toolbars like ie (don't like ie) and 3. loads web pages 2% faster (so what)

I like the suite and see no reason to switch to ffox and tbird

Posted by Steve at April 23, 2004 3:22 AM
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