How to you access the alternate sytlesheets in Safari?

Hey Dave. I know this is a "no," but I'll ask anyway. How about a nightly build of Safari, much like Chimera does, for those of us brazen souls? I like it because it allows the users to report new problems quicker before they become buried after 3 months of being worked on and the new code is no longer fresh in an engineer's mind.

It would not even be linked from the Safari page, maybe just a "if you know, you know" sort of thing. Hmm, maybe it already exists? hehe, anyway, I think it would be cool to help Apple on a daily basis, just like I do with Chimera. (or used to, hehe)

RS Little, visit the front page of the blog.

Yeah, nightly builds would be great. For that matter, the WebCore and JavascriptCore frameworks should be "live" in darwin CVS since they are open source anyway.

Keep up the good work Dave :thumbsup:

I don't think that Apple should do nightly builds at all.
The Mozilla Project could get away with them because
the people who downloaded them were the very heart
of the "fanbase" for that browser. In the case of Safari,
nightly downloaders are way more likely to be people
in search of specific bug fixes, and exactly the people
who would go ballistic the first time any kind of
regression krept in. I think that a few more betas
are in order given the fact that Apple itself cannot
possibly find every strange web page that tickles some
DOM bug or CSS failing. I think most people have found
Safari to be extremely useful so far, and to lose a fairly
good rep just to satisfy a few hardcore fans would be
too bad.

I don't agree. I'd love it if Apple did nightly builds. What they'd need to do is before downloading the build, bring you to a page that explains that this is in no way guaranteed to work correctly, may introduce bugs, and whatnot, and that the user is responsible for anything bad that happens, and that it suggests that regular users just stick to the public releases and not use nightly builds.

Of course, then we'd get programs that download the nightly releases for us, like ChimeraKnight, but hopefully that would also have the warning.

Hi, I'm using Safari 99% (security certificate issue)... beautiful brushed metal design... bug is real fine...

Just one thought... think Scrapbook/Web Archive (as in IE), with an optional pretty toolbar icon! I sent the bug/feedback form about it too. Those of us who like that feature like it a lot. I even made a half-baked Web Archive folder in ~/Library/Safari to save pages in.

How do you switch to the style sheet "rust"? I have no idea that you could do this. Can someone explain this? Thanks

Never mind, I see it at the top of the page...duh!!!! Sorry

All we really need is a live repository like someone else has already said. We can make the rest of it work ourselves. The interface is really fine the way it is, most of us really just want rendering engine updates.

Are there plans to include functionality that would allow the user to select a stylesheet if more than one is specified on the page? I know that Mozilla does this, and possibly a couple of others. That might be useful for pages like your blog, that have more than one stylesheet available.

Fucked up in Konqi too :)

Not only would it be nice to have a user interface for choosing between alternate stylesheets (such as the View/Use Style menu in Mozilla) but it's listed in section 3.2 (Conformance) of the CSS2 specification... item 5:

"If the source document comes with alternate style sheets (such as with the "alternate" keyword in HTML 4.0 [HTML40]), the UA must allow the user to select one from among these style sheets and apply the selected one."

Does Safari uses download acceleration? Because downloading is going faster then before.

Definitely. Safari needs a menu to switch between available sheets, at the very least.

There's also another (slight) problem with this site and safari. If you pick a style and then quit, then open the page up again and pick the other style, then quit, the new style you choose will not overwrite the old cookie. I don't know much about cookies but I found it impossible to overwrite cookies from a past session in safari -- or even force them to expire -- using javascript. This works as I would expect in other browsers (mozilla, chimera, windows IE). Am I missing something?

I've noticed a small "bug" in you're implementation of ALA's style switcher. It is nothing major, but (in my browser at work IE5.5 unfortunatly) the page draws in the default style, then quickly switches to the rust theme if you have that selected.

I don't know the exact cause for this because I'm not an expert on javascript, but i noticed that ALA has this bit of code at the end which yours does not:

var cookie = readCookie("style");
var title = cookie ? cookie : getPreferredStyleSheet();
setActiveStyleSheet(title);

nothing major, i'd rather you spent time on Safari than fixed that, but if you are as anal as I am you'd fix it :-)

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