November 13, 2006

Title-based Tooltips Broken?

Firefox 2 on Linux - anyone else see title-attribute-based tooltips not working (e.g. hyperlinked bug numbers in Bugzilla comments)? I did a reduced test case and they just plain don't display when I mouse over and wait.

Of course, any search to try and find the problem is swamped by lots of posts complaining about alt-attribute-based tooltips (correctly) not working...

Posted by gerv at November 13, 2006 3:12 PM
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No problems here... Firefox 2 on Gentoo Linux

Posted by: Zach at November 13, 2006 4:26 PM

I often notice that tooltips on hyperlinked bug numbers in Bugzilla comments aren't working, with SeaMonkey 1.1 and Firefox 2 on Windows XP. I've never gotten around to filing a bug report on it, though.

Posted by: Steve Chapel at November 13, 2006 4:31 PM

Works fine for me (Firefox 2 on Windows XP), both in bugzilla and with a small test file I just created.

Posted by: Michael Lefevre at November 13, 2006 5:06 PM

Yeah, this sometimes happens to me too. I have to go over the link 3-4 times to have the toolbar displayed. But this is not systematic and I have no good testcase for it.

Posted by: LpSolit at November 13, 2006 5:23 PM

Some self built versions of SeaMonkey 1.1b (between the alpha & beta releases, sorry don't have dates) seemed to have this problem - though my current SeaMonkey 1.1 branch build (from around the time of the beta release) seems to be working fine.

Posted by: Standard8 at November 13, 2006 5:53 PM

Does hovering over something in chrome with a tooltip (bookmarks toolbar?) make the problem go away? Last I checked, there was significant bugginess in the tooltip code that absolutely depended on a chrome tooltip coming up before any content tooltips could.

Posted by: Boris at November 13, 2006 7:28 PM

Boris: Now that you mention it, they aren't working in chrome either. I don't get tooltips on my bookmarks toolbar, for example.

Posted by: Gerv at November 13, 2006 9:17 PM

Bug filed? Is this a regression on branch? There were some security fixes that could have affected this....

Posted by: boris at November 13, 2006 10:24 PM

Ahh.. on some site I visit regularly I made extensive use of the feature. Suddenly the feature disappeared, requiring me to make an extra through-click. I thought they had 'dumbed down' on features, but now that you mention it: the still have the title attribute, showing up nicely in IE6.
Guess it's related to my upgrading to FF 2.0 (Windows XP), thought I can't confirm it. At least, also a test file shows the title in IE6 correctly and not in FF 2.0, so it's consistent here...

Posted by: Arjan Zuidhof at November 14, 2006 7:42 AM

I haven't made the 2.0 plunge yet. I rely heavily on a number of extensions to bring Firefox up to the standards of usability and featurefulness I require, so I'm giving extension developers a couple of months to get their stuff updated before I upgrade.

It feels a little weird, saying that. I used to upgrade my browser several times a month, back in the 0.9.x days, but these days the way to a better browser is mostly via extensions.

Posted by: Jonadab the Unsightly One at November 14, 2006 1:32 PM

Bug filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360610 .

Posted by: Gerv at November 14, 2006 5:18 PM

I'm seeing the same thing as LpSoilt, they *sometimes* don't work and I have to try 3 or 4 times, but no obvious pattern to the failures.

Posted by: dolphinling at November 15, 2006 2:23 AM

Solution found: I had browser.chrome.toolbar_tips set to false. This pref is rather badly named - it turns of all tooltips, not just the ones in chrome (which is what I wanted when I set it). Turning it back on fixed the problem.

Posted by: Gerv at November 17, 2006 12:06 PM

Thanks for this - been bugging me for a few hours - desktop and laptop installs behaving differently. Don't remember explicitly switching this off, and can't think why I would, but I, too, have been wallowing through 'that's not what ALT is for' posts, until I came across your tip.

ToastEr

Posted by: Toaster at April 1, 2007 2:29 PM

Where is this browser.chrome.toolbar_tips setting found (relative newcomer to SeaMonkey here)?

Posted by: Jason at October 14, 2007 10:36 AM

See the URL about:config.

Gerv

Posted by: Gerv at October 16, 2007 10:20 PM

Hmmm. Strange. My one is set to "true", but still no tooltips?

Posted by: Jason at October 18, 2007 5:59 AM

Hmmm. Strange. My one is set to "true", but still no tooltips?

Posted by: Jason at October 18, 2007 6:08 AM