I notice Chris Blizzard (600K JPEG) does something like me, and calls his folders things like "Z-People" to make them sort to the end (I use z__todo). Grr. Why can't you set the order?
(No, I haven't looked in Bugzilla. This is a rant; I'm exempt.)
Posted by gerv at August 30, 2006 7:38 PMGerv:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193314
I had that in Windows. I called my photo-directory z-pictures so it appeared in the file-manager immediately above the drive that my camera mounted as, making transfer easier.
Posted by: Adam at August 31, 2006 12:19 AMI use "Zpam" instead of "Spam" for similar reasons. I want my spam folder at the very bottom of the listing where I don't get distracted by it.
Posted by: Jack Smith at August 31, 2006 12:51 PMFor things I want at the top, I just use an _ beforehand. That's it.
Posted by: Ian at August 31, 2006 1:35 PMBeing able to manually sort folders in Thunderbird would be great! Fixing this would be very helpful.
"(No, I haven't looked in Bugzilla. This is a rant; I'm exempt.)"
How quickly the memory goes. You did look in Bugzilla... two days ago... and commented on the bug... twice!
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193314#c8
:-)
Frankly, if you want a long grocery list of Features That Thunderbird Really Ought To Have(TM), download Pegasus Mail and use it for a few days.
Pegasus Mail is not open source, but it is freely available, so in terms of looking at features there's no cost, assuming you have a Windows system. The fact that it only runs on Windows is the reason I finally gave it up, but it was by far the most painful Windows software to move away from, and several years later I still miss it sometimes. I can't say that for *any* other Windows software I ever used.
Seriously, Pegasus Mail had in 1994 practically every feature you would want in a mailreader, including a really easy learning curve. Its filtering system is absolutely to die for.
And yeah, it lets you order the folders in any way that you want, with the minor restriction that only a special type of folder called a "filing tray" can contain subfolders.
Thunderbird has a *lot* of catching up to do, before it can be anywhere near as good for email as Firefox is for the web. I use Thunderbird at work, where I have only a small volume of email, but if I had to use it for my home email, I think I'd die. (I use Gnus, and even that is missing some of Pegasus Mail's niftier features, though of course it also, being rooted deep in Emacs land, has many features that _everything_ else lacks.)
Posted by: Jonadab the Unsightly One at September 3, 2006 5:39 PMJeff: I did that after Jaime gave me the link in the comment above :-)
Posted by: Gerv at September 4, 2006 8:28 AMGerv:
Ah, makes sense. I thought you were a little too young for memory loss!
(Prompted by Jonadab's comments...) I used Thunderbird once -- only once. I prefer to keep mail on a mainframe, and only keep local copies of things with big attachments. TBird cleaned out my mainframe mailfolder. At that point, I poked around trying to find the "leave on server" "selective download" options that I knew from Pegasus. Couldn't find 'em. Went back to Pegasus. Been afraid to look at Tbird ever since! 8|
Posted by: David Reimer at September 7, 2006 8:20 AM> I poked around trying to find the "leave on server" "selective download"
Actually, it does have that.
But if you're sticking with Windows for your OS, stick with Pegasus for your mail. It's really quite good. I only moved away from it because I didn't want to be tied to Windows.
Incidentally, the guy who wrote and maintains Pegasus uses and likes Firefox.
David Reimer: Were you using IMAP or POP? IMAP obviously leaves everything on the server. I don't know if the POP default is to download everything or to leave everything; I'd suspect the former, because otherwise the out-of-the-box behaviour would be to slowly fill up your quota until you couldn't receive mail any more. And that behaviour is normally what people using POP (as opposed to IMAP) want.
But it's definitely configurable.
Posted by: Gerv at September 8, 2006 8:43 AMFinally some information on this sorting issue :) Got tired of it enough
that I decided to get a login for Bugzilla, and cast a vote for it. Of course
being new to Bugzilla, I think I ended up sending out blank email to a gazillion people who are on the list to receive notifications to that bug report cited
above !
Actually what I was looking for, I found in the comments to a Thunderbird addon
page. I'm adding the link to the addon here, and the comment is the last one,
by CreaTurE (August 18th 2006). The ability to sort the accounts list is what
I was looking for and that is something that should be in Thunderbird by default
as well.
mehul
