When written, what's the plural of OS?
And, for that matter, how do you pronounce the singular and the plural? Please give nationality when replying.
Posted by gerv at April 11, 2005 01:15 PMOSes! :)
Singular pronounced as each letter E.g. O.S.
Plural pronounced as above except the "es" is pronounced "ez"
South African my friend!
Posted by: Ray Booysen at April 11, 2005 01:31 PMI would write it as OS'es. (I'm Belgian, don't sue me).
Posted by: jhermans at April 11, 2005 01:31 PMHeres another one: OSs
(Swedish & English, 50/50)
Posted by: David Naylor at April 11, 2005 02:05 PMHmm,
OS'ems,
OSii (Latin :P)
OS's is the one I use. (British)
I usually read it "Oh, Ess-esz) (Zee zound, not American Zed zound)
It should be written "OSs" and pronounced "oh ess is". The singular is pronounced "oh ess". I'm British. Here's a quote from "Eats, Shoots & Leaves":
Only one significant task has been lifted from the apostrophe's workload in recent years: it no longer has to appear in the plurals of abbreviations ("MPs") or plural dates ("1980s"). Until quite recently, it was customary to write "MP's" and "1980's" -- and in fact this convention still applies in America.
Posted by: Stephen at April 11, 2005 02:14 PMWritten plural of OS: OSes
Pronunciation of OS: Oh-Es
Pronunciation of OSes: Oh-Esses
Citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Posted by: Alex Bishop at April 11, 2005 02:15 PMOSms.
Posted by: Robin at April 11, 2005 02:18 PMI'm from Singapore and I agree with Alex Bishop.
Posted by: ketsugi at April 11, 2005 02:29 PMDes OS (in French words ending with a S in singular don't change in plural)
Posted by: Pascal at April 11, 2005 02:31 PMFor other acronyms I usually just append a lower-case "s". For example:
API (singular), APIs (plural)
In the case of "OS" I wouldn't follow this convention because the repeated "s" is ugly ("OSs") and easily confused with "OSS" ("Open Source Software"). So in this case I would just always write "operating systems" when I need to use the plural.
Most English grammar experts would condemn the use of an apostrophe here as incorrect. The apostrophe should only be used to indicate possession (doesn't apply here) and contraction (doesn't apply: what letters have been omitted?).
Nationality: Australian.
Posted by: Wincent at April 11, 2005 02:34 PMI'm going to have to agree with Stephen:
It should be written "OSs" and pronounced "oh ess is". The singular is pronounced "oh ess".
I'm Canadian.
Posted by: Gavin Sharp at April 11, 2005 02:41 PMPlural of OS: OSes
Pronunciation: oh-ESS-izz (Sounds like "Oh, S is.")
American
Posted by: Peter at April 11, 2005 03:02 PMAs mentioned by Stephen up there, the proper form is OSs, to follow the pattern. Similiar things include DVDs, CDs, etc. Adding "es" is tempting because that's how we'd pluarlize it if the word ended in s (systemses?). I don't think it's right (philosophically, at least) when pluralizing acronyms.
-Silly American
Posted by: Nikolas Coukouma at April 11, 2005 03:09 PMI tend to write "OSs" or "OSes", roughly equally often, and pronounce both "OH ess is", to rhyme with, say, "confesses".
I'm UKian - from deepest darkest Lancashire, in fact.
Posted by: James at April 11, 2005 03:09 PMMy name is Greg Nicholson and I pronounce OSes as "ossiz". But I pronounce OS as O.S. - crazy, eh?
And I'm from England (the north-east).
Posted by: Greg K Nicholson at April 11, 2005 03:14 PMOSes
OS pronounced "oss" to rhyme with "floss", OSes pronounced "osses" to rhyme with "flosses"
South African, English speaking.
Posted by: David Fraser at April 11, 2005 03:41 PMIt is, in fact, proper to apply an apostrophe when making a plural of an abbreviation, thus: "OS's", pronounced "oh esses".
In recent years, the entirely justified horror expressed at the so-called "greengrocer's apostrophe" ("Fresh pea's and carrot's for sale!" -- ugh!) has resulted in an unfortunate myth to the effect that apostrophes are /always/ wrong in making plurals. This is not so.
Posted by: John W. Kennedy at April 11, 2005 03:46 PMFrom USA and agree with Alex Bishop.
Posted by: will at April 11, 2005 04:14 PMThnaks to J.W.Kennedy, I finally understand why no one suggests the apostrophe version the most common (according to Google, at least). See
http://www.google.com/search?q=OS%27s&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
which finds 604K results and compare it with
http://www.google.com/search?q=OSes&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
finding "only" 566K results.
When it comes to pronounciation, no complaints here.
Oh, I'd forgot, I'm Czech.
in spanish would be SSOO (we double the first letter if the word is in plural, ie. Estados Unidos (United States) becomes EEUU)
Posted by: sryo at April 11, 2005 04:48 PMMy pronunciation is the same as Alex Bishop, and I'm from the UK as well :)
Posted by: njs at April 11, 2005 04:52 PMPlural of OS: OSesPronunciation: oh-ESS-izz (Sounds like "Oh, S is.")
American
After looking up plurals of various things several weeks ago in my workplace's copy of the Chicago Manual Of Style, my recollection is that John Kennedy is wrong, and apostrophes are NOT appropriate when pluralizing abbreviations, even for "clarity." Certainly letters (Xs) and numbers (7s) are pluralized by adding a single 's' when it can be done without confusion. I THINK you add an "es" otherwise, but I can't recall. In the case of the abbreviation "OS," I would suspect the proper plural is "OSs," or else "OSes," but certainly not "OS's" or "OS'es."
USA here.
Posted by: Peter Kasting at April 11, 2005 05:07 PMHow about " OS' "? That's usually used for pluralizing something that ends with an S.
Posted by: Andy at April 11, 2005 05:29 PMAmerican, agree with Ray, Alex, Peter, James, will and Seth, who all say the same thing apart from the variation on plurals which, I have a feeling, is due to locale.
Andy, OS' is used for making something possessive, when it's already plural and ends in S.
Posted by: Michael Greene at April 11, 2005 05:37 PMOSen. Nationality: geek (ok, Australia).
Posted by: James at April 11, 2005 06:34 PMI would actually avoid having to use the plural by using an adjective: "various OS", "many OS", "most OS".
If you are speaking, just use the whole word:
"operating systems". Avoids any problems... ;-)
My 2c from Eastern Tennessee, USA
Posted by: Xavier at April 11, 2005 07:32 PMI would say "OSe". I'm German and the singular "Betriebssystem" would become "Betriebssysteme", so I guess it's just logic. Although you should apply only English grammar on an English word.
Posted by: Stefan Winopal at April 11, 2005 07:59 PMWhat Alex Bishop says: in English the plural is spelled OSes and pronounced "oh ess ez," while the singular is pronounced "oh ess."
Nationality: American and Hungarian
OSes. Pronouced just as the acronym is, with "es" on the end. "Oh ess es".
This was standard English, but modern corruption of the language has given way to widespread misuse of apostrophes.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/acronyms.html
Posted by: Brad Fults at April 11, 2005 08:40 PMAgain, I'd say OSes and pronounce it "Oh-ess-iz". From the UK, Yorkshire born and bred.
Posted by: Neil T. at April 11, 2005 09:15 PMSpelled: OSes
Pronounced: "Oh Ess-ez" or "Operating Systems"
Nationality: Californian (er, American)
Posted by: Kommet at April 11, 2005 10:42 PMResults so far:
OSes: 14 OSs 5 Operating Systems: 3 OS's 2 OS'es 1 OSms 1 OS' 1 OSen 1
It looks like we have a clear winner to me.
FWIW, I think it's "OSes" too, because the general English rule of plurals is "add 's', except when it ends with an S-sound, in which case add 'es'". I think it's reasonable to apply this to abbreviations also.
[This blogpost was inspired by an email from the documentation group manager at work, who asserted that "OSs" was correct.]
Posted by: Gerv at April 11, 2005 10:55 PMOSes, oh-ess-uz. Anyone above the age of seven including an apostrophe should be euphanised immediately.
In general Operating Systems is much preferred, of course.
- Chris
I would have said OSes, but the post about Eats, Shoots and Leaves has convinced me that is should probably really be OSs. Definatly not OS's though.
I spell it out, as I do with SQL. I'm british.
Posted by: thelem at April 12, 2005 01:01 AMAnother vote from the States (Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia, depending on how far back I go) for OSes, pronounced oh-es-iz. Word or abbreviation ends in an S sound, add -es to it. And whoever wrote that America still uses apostrophes to pluralize abbreviations forgot to mention it's only the Americans who did poorly in high-school English classes. (Which I admit is probably most of us.)
Posted by: Jason at April 12, 2005 01:04 AMOSes (Oh-Ess-ees), and OS (Oh-Ess).
Posted by: Somebody at April 12, 2005 01:44 AMOh, and I'm Scottish.
Posted by: Somebody at April 12, 2005 01:45 AMOSes, 'oh ess', 'oh esses', Irish.
Posted by: Sean Neakums at April 12, 2005 02:37 AMIn Dutch I would write: OS'en [ oh-ess-un ]
In English I would write: OSes [ oh-ess-uz ]
(And I'm from Belgium ;-) )
Posted by: JanC at April 12, 2005 06:33 AMOS - 'Oh-Ess'
OSes - 'Operating Systems'
;-)
And I'm English.
Martin
Posted by: Martin at April 12, 2005 05:06 PMOSs
Estadounidense
Posted by: GT at April 26, 2005 11:33 PM