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May 31, 2005
W3Schools
It is funny how W3school's Firefox marketshare is hailed, yet no one mentions that the site's content itself is highly IE centric (W3 my arse, IE-only apis and samples everywhere).
One of the most evil sites on earth. I've heard "but w3schools says blabla" as an excuse too often.
Go grow some hair, read specs, and everyone implement them in different ways because specification authors mistake beer for brain matter. And arguing that security is not their responsibility.
Posted by doron at May 31, 2005 7:44 PM
Comments
Too right. It took me a couple of months of correspondance to get them to make a few simple changes to give their SVG (and any SVG written by their readers) a half chance of working in Moz. I've been evangelising high profile SVG tutorial sites, and they were certainly one of the hardest to convince - and that's despite their browser stats.
Posted by: Jonathan Watt at June 1, 2005 12:47 AM
What worries me is that a lot of people seem to thing w3schools is the w3c official tutorial site. So you often see posts where people say that the W3C is reporting Firefox usage at 25% (e.g. http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=node/view/15728 ) which means that people are mistaking this site all the time.
As you may notice when you read their stats they like to keep playing down the significance of Firefox's growth saying that most real people still use IE anyway. In reality if this were a W3C site they'd be encouraging people to code to standards not to browsers.
Posted by: Dave at June 1, 2005 3:25 AM
w3schools is a very lacking site. It's coverage is lacking, and hardly anything but API listings are done. No good explanations and few usefull tutorials.
A pure API listing is only worth something, if you're in otherwise full command of the technology, but just can't remember what that thing you know is there, was called.
And that they sell "diplomas" and stuff bothers me. ZVON.org is one alternative which is much better (it seems to be down atm).
Posted by: Svend Tofte at June 2, 2005 3:59 PM
Heh, this blog entry is now the number 3 result when googling "w3schools". (After w3schools.com and w3schools.org)
(For what it's worth, I found w3schools.com useful when learning HTML/CSS/XSL etc. But perhaps that's just because I made do with the first thing I found. ^_^)
Posted by: starwed at June 8, 2005 11:26 PM
Two things bother me about ww3schools (yes I use the lowercase deliberatly).
1. They don't even test their simple code samples.
http://www.w3schools.com/sql/func_first.asp
SELECT FIRST(Age) AS lowest_age
FROM Persons
ORDER BY Age
Doesn't work. 2 reasons actually. 1 - it is missing a group by clause. 2 - First and Last don't work in MS Access which is what I was really looking for info on.
2. At the bottom of the page they state:
W3Schools provides material for training only. We do not warrant the correctness of its contents.
What good is a school that teaches the wrong content? It sounds like a normal disclaimer about not taking responsiblity if someone writes crap code but they basically are saying they don't the material they are presenting.
I hope your blorg goes to the top of the list on google so people will supporting such a poor product.
Thanks.
Posted by: FWIW IMHO at June 26, 2005 11:35 AM
Haha I never noticed that. It's a shame people can't even web develop correctly anymore. I remember back in the days when you had to have skill to create websites, now everyone is so pragmatic they have sold their soul for simplicity and code that won't work on a different VERSION of their own browser let along a different browser or even a different platform. It's just a shame that the desktop-programmers have invaded our territory and think they can run the place.
Posted by: David Betz at July 2, 2005 9:11 AM