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October 09, 2003

Oh No! IE doesn't care about standards!

CNET has a funny article about how developers are griping about IE not adding more standards support. They even talk about maybe MS is waiting for longhorn to add them, making people migrate to it.

Haha. People seem to miss the fact that the web (and Netscape) were a threat to MS, and they decided to take over the threatening market, which they did. Microsoft hates web applications, as they can be cross platform. They rather tie you down to one OS - look how all the music buying sites on the web require IE, as they use windows media player. And I'm sure they rather you write your application in C# and IIS using .NET. If you have to use the web, do it all in VBScript and ActiveX.

Mozilla is the best web application framework out there. Opera has been improving, but still lacks a lot. And KHTML is about 2 years behind.

So lets go make Mozilla better. I'm starting to mess with the web services code in Mozilla, already have my first patch up to make it work with Apache Axis based Web Services. And what about you? (and no, moaning on forums and voting on bugs doesn't count. Even documentation doesn't, as its currently all over the place and not in a central location).

Posted by doron at October 9, 2003 06:56 PM

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Does testing count? In the company I work for we've built a simple demo showing some of our services called from JavaScript in Netscape 7.1. Because our services are using Axis it took us about a week to work around all the problems this caused.
What would be the best place to find out about your updates in Mozilla?

Posted by: Alexey at October 10, 2003 05:02 AM

Mozilla has problems with the soapAction being set to "", which is what Axis does in its WSDL.

Posted by: Doron at October 10, 2003 06:38 AM

The simple fact is that, when all other factors are equal, where will consumers spend their money? I believe that in the long run, the best looking, easiest-to-use applications will also be the most successful. I think that's why Apple encourages developers to write programs that are 100 percent Aqua-compliant.

Posted by: Rebecca at January 24, 2004 08:19 PM

To help you become a good Aqua citizen, Apple has created a few guidelines. I've put together a brief overview of them, and we'll be tackling many of them in the months to come.

Posted by: Cecily at January 24, 2004 08:19 PM

Due to the positioning of the Dock, remember that when you build an application, you have to be sure that new document window sizes and positions do not violate the Dock's space. Dock is temperamental and Dock loves his space. If you default to a window size that expands behind the dock, users will have a difficult time reaching the navigation and resize areas at the bottom of the screen. I can personally say that more than once I have been rather peeved that I couldn't get to an area of the window to resize because the default window settings always pop up behind the Dock. In addition, the new Dock in 10.1 will allow users to position their Dock location on either side of the screen as well.

Posted by: Matilda at January 24, 2004 08:20 PM

This topic is one we will tackle later in this article, but it refers to making sure that your application and the dock aren't fighting it out for supremacy of the screen.

Posted by: Edi at January 24, 2004 08:20 PM

You Must Promise. To call your mother, to help old ladies cross the road, and to turn your cell phone off at the movies.

Posted by: Nicholas at January 24, 2004 08:20 PM

So far in these articles, I have only dipped a toe or two into Aqua's pool. I have covered basic aspects of building an Aqua-compliant application, including the building of photo-illustrative/3D application icons. Now it's time to address other components of our Mac OS X application.

Posted by: Fulk at January 24, 2004 08:20 PM

In building your amazing Aqua application, one of the most important things to consider is the Dock. There are three things your app needs to be "Dock Compliant." Now, I write this knowing that the Dock will be going through some major changes soon, but for the most part, these should still hold true.

Posted by: Gerrard at January 24, 2004 08:20 PM

User Assistance. This is helping the user with the proper "next step" when performing a task. Less guesswork for the user on what to do next makes for a better experience.

Posted by: Valentine at January 24, 2004 08:20 PM

In building your amazing Aqua application, one of the most important things to consider is the Dock. There are three things your app needs to be "Dock Compliant." Now, I write this knowing that the Dock will be going through some major changes soon, but for the most part, these should still hold true.

Posted by: Thadeus at January 24, 2004 08:21 PM

You Must Promise. To call your mother, to help old ladies cross the road, and to turn your cell phone off at the movies.

Posted by: Giles at January 24, 2004 08:21 PM