September 11, 2004

Ben talks about Firefox' geek factor

In the Inside Firefox weblog, Ben talks about some people perceiving Firefox as a browser for geeks. My personal opinion is that Firefox is not geeky at all. However, it has some features that can be hard for new users to understand.

The first thing that comes to mind is the new RSS icon in the status bar. I consider myself as a geek, but I don't even know what RSS stands for. (Yeah, a quick Google search will give me the answer, but you get my point.) I can assure you that my mother would never click on a button that says RSS, which makes me wonder who we are targetting with that feature (hardly the general user) and why it isn't an extension? Hovering the button gives you this description: "Add Live Bookmark for this page's feed". "What feed?", I can hear my mom wondering. :)

As for the main menu, there is one potentially confusing item there too, but it's less important than the RSS icon since a menu item is never in your face. I'm talking about the Web Search item in the Tools menu. Try hiding the search bar and see what the menu item does: Nothing. Of course, the search bar is visible by default so it's not an issue for newbies anyway, but still.

Other than those two minor issues, I'd say Firefox is as geeky as Internet Explorer, only a couple of hundred times better. If you want to see real geek-browsers in action, try Mozilla 1.7.2 or Opera. ;)

Posted by djst at September 11, 2004 6:50 PM
Comments

Mozilla Suite has more polished UI then really over-featured Opera.

Posted by: Adam Hauner at September 11, 2004 7:15 PM

The Web Search thing is bug 242862 (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242862)

Posted by: Greg K Nicholson at September 11, 2004 7:27 PM

...or even http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242862

Posted by: Greg K Nicholson at September 11, 2004 7:28 PM

There's no RSS icon in my status bar and I want one!

Posted by: ooga at September 11, 2004 8:23 PM

The comment about the Tools Web Search menu item is one of the first things I noticed after installing 1.0 PR RC. When I clicked on it, it did nothing. After some searching, I did figure out that I needed to unhide the searchbar (which I had hidden), but it was initially confusing.

Posted by: Racer at September 11, 2004 9:04 PM

I filed http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258682 to try to ease the geekiness of prominent features like RSS. Unfortunately, I didn't think up the bug until now, just when we have a freeze on strings for localization.

Posted by: Greg at September 11, 2004 10:27 PM

As it has been discussed before in other places, default toolbar buttons set is not optimal for new users as well. Go, Print and New Tab buttons need to be included right from the start.

Posted by: Walter K at September 11, 2004 11:14 PM

ah, i never did understand the web search menu item (as i always have the google bar closed)

Posted by: james at September 12, 2004 12:39 PM

WHY would you ever hide the google bar?!?

Posted by: WHY at September 15, 2004 2:06 PM

FF needs toolbar grippies like IE has quickly. Reason: extensions like the google bar are uncustomizable, it's anoying to do it button by button.........

Posted by: gman at September 18, 2004 11:04 PM