djst's nest

Mozilla Firebird is going to be renamed "Mozilla Browser" when Firebird/Thunderbird/GRE replaces XPFE.

I hate to see people waste their time like this. Make Mozilla dino icons, not Firebird.

djst has some good points, but i don't like arvid's new icon, either. it's the f. it looks stupid.

to what netdragon said - it's going to be a while before fb becomes moz, so it needs to be an attractive program now. we shouldn't wait until fb & moz mate before getting new users to use fb.

Not a Firebird user (Moz 1.4), but I like the icon better than the old one. The "F" looks a little strange (I assume) because it's attempting to emulate a bird's wing.

I dont like any icon that shows a big "F". Why do we have to copy the "e" style?

Anything with a bird instead of F would be much better.

im with netdragon on this one.

attempts should be made to reinforce Mozilla not firebird!

I like it very much.

I think other posts reflect the geeky nature most of the current fb users have ;-)

The icon looks more professional than current one, I definitively agree.

Wow, David. I never thought you are still sticking to your no-red-color-in-icons concept. Arvid's icon is pretty nice and even I myself is using it now, but.. in my opinion, an icon shouldn't have any letter(s) or alphabet(s) on it. 'F' might just mean anything. 'Fireworks'? 'Falcon'? Just my opinion...

The F doesn't belong, but the all red icon could be confusing. I don't like the red dino icons, it'd be nice to have the green lizard back again :)

I didn't even know people were fighting over this. I don't like either of the icons. Why shouldn't Firebird represent aggression? We're trying to take over the browser market. The "F" looks silly to me.

If anyone chooses to not use an application merely because they don't like the icon, they they don't realize that you can use whatever icon you want.

I like the new icon, but i love more that blue one where u can find it on mac os x builds... it's 100 times better designed, more stylish than this one, this it's ok if we compare it with the flame red icon but seriously it seems to be an Internet Explorer Family icon...

No jokes.

Unfortunately, I don't like either one of the icons.

Actually, my favorite color is red, and has been for over 25 years. The walls of my house are painted red. My bed sheets are red. My backpack that I take back and forth with me to work is red. Hell, even my jacket is red. I live in a red world. :P

Firebird's red icon helps me remember what it is, and makes it more attractive to me.

Arvid's icon is nice, but I have grown accostumed to the red fire (flames).

I agree with many, that the F doesn't look right.
Don't get me wrong, the globe looks great, and the 'F' looks great also, but something about the combination (or maybe the f's position) just don't ad up right

Arvid's new icon looks 'better polished', but...
It is sadly much too close to 'another Internet Explorer family icon'. And anyway, it's not worth fighting over something soon to be deprecated =)

Let's hope we (?) can find an effective icon for the future Mozilla Mail. No bird, no dino, mail&news.

I like that it scales on Windows XP better than the flame. I also think the picture of the globe in the icon is a good idea on helping people think that it is a web browser. Thunderbird has a piece of mail in its icon so should Firebird have some symbol to associate with the web.

Anything's better than the current Mozilla logos. Those are nasty.

I'm not sure if I love the new icon, but the old red flame thing has to go. It might as well be a big red box. A new user would never expect that icon to lead to a web browser, at least the new icon has those hints included.

I liked the world in the icon (that is an icon for browser today), and the way that the F resembles a wing of a redish bird without being red :) (i agree that red is a dagerous color for an icon)

but well, i also think that it's nice to focus on mozilla and not firebird.. but what the crap, the guy did a good job -- althou i think it lacks some flames hehe. maybe in a background?

peace

Quite frankly, both icons are monumentally idiotic in both style and representation.

The newer one, though, does have a slight advantage over the ugly red one in that it uses more than three colors. Other than that, it sucks just as bad as the cheesy red one.

Either icon, however, is perfect well suited for firebird.

I don't like the current red Firebird icon. But I have to laugh when people try to push another icon using the argument "this new icon is descriptive." Please. Nobody looks at a globe and says "Oh! The Internet!"

As a logo for the word Firebird, it is very effective. It communicates the F, the idea of flames, and the concept of flight in one symbol. The impression of giving a wing to facilitate navigation is an appropriate comparison to a browser allowing you to travel through the internet.

I like the new icon. The old one simply is not at all professional nor is it at all current. One more comment: some of you people are obnoxious as all get out. How in the world can an icon (ICON!) be "monumentally idiotic"?! Spend some time away from your computer and pick up some manners...and some taste and a pair of eyeglasses wouldn't hurt either.

I just get an X is the top left hand corner of the window when I run Firebird...
Any icon would be an improvement, but I can't work it out....

I too think that the official icon is more appealing than Arvid's. For me, *Fire*bird needs to have some red in it and is suited well by the simple icon right now.

I love the winged icon. We should either use that icon, or beef up the current icon to a high-color icon.