I narrated a tour of Firefox. Check it out.
Posted by: Ken Saunders | October 30, 2009 8:10 PM
This is great, but I felt like you went a little too fast. Not for me; I have been using Firefox since before it was Firefox. But for people who don't know much about Firefox, I think this goes too fast.
Posted by: yfan | October 30, 2009 11:37 PM
I think I found a bug... If I get on this page and play the video, it starts normally: "Welcome to Firefox"... then, if I rewind the video back to the beginning, I get "Welc-Welcome to Firefox".
Anyone else?
Posted by: Stifu | October 31, 2009 2:06 AM
Same bug as Stifu. Can't read the video, it tops after "Welcome to fire...".
Firefox 3.5 under Ubuntu 9.10.
Posted by: Johannes | October 31, 2009 9:26 AM
Video only works in Firefox/Chrome. Which kinda defeats its purpose as you are introducing it and its current users don't need this.
IE8 - No
Opera 10 - No
Safari 4 - No
Chrome 4 - Works
Firefox 3.5 - Works
Posted by: Sam Mcneal | November 1, 2009 1:00 PM
Sam, I disagree.
This video isn't intended for IE users. It's intended for Firefox users to learn a little bit more about their browser.
(besides, this is just something I'm showing off here at my blog (this blog has >80% Firefox+Chrome users) because I happen to be the one that did the voice over. If you're not a Firefox user looking to use Firefox, and you do encounter this video, it'll very likely be at mozilla.com where there's fall-backs for Safari and IE users.
- A
Posted by: Asa Dotzler | November 1, 2009 1:12 PM
For the record, the bug I mentioned above seems to be fixed in Firefox 3.6.
Posted by: Stifu | November 1, 2009 2:19 PM
@Asa
So did you make purposefully make this only work in those two browsers?
Let's think of a nice quote you once said when other sites where discriminating against Firefox.
"Webmasters, listen up. Respect your users or you will lose them. With Firefox, the user is no longer just a spectator, he's a participant. Play nice or face extinction. Seriously."- Asa Dotzler
I am using Opera. If you could, please, put yourself in my shoes. I am sure you remember when sites discriminated against Firefox. How many hours you spent contacting the sites and telling them to quite discriminating so Firefox would gain a larger crowd. People wouldn't make their site's compatible with Firefox because of your low share at the time. Now you have become what you have once fought. Locking out other browsers, I am sure that will make the web better. Since Firefox has much higher numbers now does not give you the right to reject users like myself. Play nice or face extinction.
-Daniel Hendrycks
Posted by: Daniel Hendrycks | November 1, 2009 3:45 PM
@Daniel
Theora isn't a format that Asa wrote himself or Mozilla wrote for Firefox. He used an open non-proprietary one that other browser makers should be supporting as well but (most) currently do not. So he's using a modern format for a modern browser that Fx users (the intended audience anyway) will be able to view just fine.
Should he provide fall-backs for all other formats? I don't think so. Do you ever come across sites that provide fall-backs when they use FLV, MOV, or WMP? No. They expect and assume that you have software already installed to view the format that they are imposing. I don't even have QuickTime (or Real Player) installed at all because I have no need for an entire external heavy application that hijacks my default settings just to view a .mov online. No one is providing fall-backs for me. If I do ever come across a site that requires QuickTime, Real, or even WMP, I'll just pass it by. There are plenty of other sites online.
If Asa were to post a cool APNG here, would you have any problems with IE users not being able to see it even though you could? Should he have to provide a fall-back .gif?
Have to draw the line somewhere.
Posted by: Ken Saunders | November 1, 2009 4:48 PM
Oh, I was under the impression the video was in a flash format so I thought he was blocking certain browsers just because the majority is Firefox and Chrome. Bye :)
Posted by: Daniel Hendrycks | November 1, 2009 5:29 PM
Well Asa, rather than being mad at you I praise you for using Theora on your site rather than a plug-in. I myself am a Theora advocate. Please excuse my mislead anger earlier.
Posted by: Daniel Hendrycks | November 1, 2009 5:43 PM
Daniel, push on Opera to get Theora into a shipping version. They've had it in a labs build for ages. Go to the Opera forums and make some noise. They obviously aren't hearing enough complaints from their dedicated users.
- A
Posted by: Asa Dotzler | November 1, 2009 10:46 PM
The movie is incorrect,
it says that you can bookmark an address by clicking the star and that it will then be accessable via the bookmarks menu.
This is not correct, since it wont show up there. Users have to go to "Organize bookmarks..." and then click on "Unsorted bookmarks" tree node to see it.
This was actually pretty confusing for me in the beginning, since I didn't find what i just bookmarked. It is not obvious at all that it will be added under "unsorted bookmarks". Why not add it to the root of bookmarks?
Posted by: José | November 2, 2009 5:23 AM
"Daniel, push on Opera to get Theora into a shipping version. They've had it in a labs build for ages. Go to the Opera forums and make some noise. They obviously aren't hearing enough complaints from their dedicated users.
- A"
It was my intention to do so immediately after they gave use a preview of Presto 2.3 (or 2.4, they are done with 2.3 (one employee said they may just skip 2.3)(Hakon in a seminar we will "hopefully" get a preview of a new version of Presto by the end of this year)(Excuse the multiple parenthesis))
While awaiting this preview to see if it would have Ogg support David Storey (project manager of Opera Dragonfly and a creator of the Open The Web project) was in an interview with another employee Aleksander Aas (Online Community Representative) he stated that Opera is committed to Ogg. (Last paragraph here http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2009/10/16/opera-talks-david-storey )
I do think in 2.4 we will have Ogg support. Time will tell.
Posted by: Daniel Hendrycks | November 2, 2009 5:46 PM
I can't see the video with Fx 3.5.4 (xp)
there's a X printed in the middle of the video space.
the play video menu when I right click is greyed...
Posted by: matp75 | November 3, 2009 1:51 AM
It appears we now have a beta of 2.4, but only for smartphones. http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2009/11/03/presto-23-and-24
I can see why Opera does not yet have support for Ogg, they have been working on so many things at once; e.g. Unite, Carakan, Vega and phone browsers.
Posted by: Daniel Hendrycks | November 3, 2009 5:14 AM
matp75: that's also how it is for me at work, because it's blocked. But it works fine at home with the same browser.
Daniel: I see the video element as more important than Unite, but I guess PR stunts are priority 1.
http://gadgetsteria.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/opera-reinvent.png
Posted by: Stifu | November 3, 2009 2:58 PM
Wow, flawless delivery. How many takes? :)
The sound quality is great. It's really crisp.
Did you mean to call the location bar the navigation bar? 0:47
"Now, let's take a closer look at the navigation bar, or awesome bar as we like to call it."
Or, were you just trying to keep things simple by not having to mention another element?