Could Apple's pushy updater cost them iTunes users? Seems possible.
Posted by asa on April 6, 2008 6:49 PM
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So far i think this only pisses off the technocracy, not the common user.
My dad actually thought it was cool to give safari a try. He had seen it on my mac, but didn't know it was on windows. I think he is still using firefox, but if he is anywhere near to norm (which is very doubtful), then apple made the right move.
I'd think they'd have more people just uninstall the updater than drop iTunes, but I guess time will tell. With Apple now being the largest music seller, it seems unlikely that they'll lose may iTunes users.
cameron, I'm seeing the exact opposing among friends and family. The technocracy are the ones that know or find out the magic switch that tells Apple to stop prompting. It's the "regular people" that don't understand why un-checking the box once doesn't actually make it go away. They're the ones that are going to get prompted about once a month from now until forever because Apple doesn't make it easy to say "not now and not ever".
What I think would be fascinating to see is what Apple's conversion rate between update downloads and active continuing users will be. We'll only have the faintest clues from monthly market share #s and a total guesstimate of somewhere in the 10s of millions. That retention rate will say a lot about Apple's future success on Windows.
I have to say, it shows a lot of confidence in their product to do this b/c if the people trying Safari don't like it, they're gone forever. It'll just sit on the desktop. For where it's at on Windows (text appearance, window appearance, etc.) I don't know if that was a good idea.
Apple have been doing this for a long time with Quicktime and iTunes. I.e. even if you managed to find a Quicktime download, that didn't include iTunes, you would get a Quicktime+iTunes bundle at the next update.
Not winning any friends in network admins either. Just waiting for a systemwide ban of all Apple software in every company, that will teach them a lesson.
reactions, thoughts, comments, etc.
So far i think this only pisses off the technocracy, not the common user.
My dad actually thought it was cool to give safari a try. He had seen it on my mac, but didn't know it was on windows. I think he is still using firefox, but if he is anywhere near to norm (which is very doubtful), then apple made the right move.
Posted by: cameron | April 6, 2008 7:06 PM
I'd think they'd have more people just uninstall the updater than drop iTunes, but I guess time will tell. With Apple now being the largest music seller, it seems unlikely that they'll lose may iTunes users.
Posted by: Jake Munson | April 6, 2008 7:18 PM
cameron, I'm seeing the exact opposing among friends and family. The technocracy are the ones that know or find out the magic switch that tells Apple to stop prompting. It's the "regular people" that don't understand why un-checking the box once doesn't actually make it go away. They're the ones that are going to get prompted about once a month from now until forever because Apple doesn't make it easy to say "not now and not ever".
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Posted by: Asa Dotzler | April 6, 2008 7:20 PM
The graphic accompanying that blog post is awesome.
Posted by: Ben Basson | April 6, 2008 8:00 PM
What I think would be fascinating to see is what Apple's conversion rate between update downloads and active continuing users will be. We'll only have the faintest clues from monthly market share #s and a total guesstimate of somewhere in the 10s of millions. That retention rate will say a lot about Apple's future success on Windows.
I have to say, it shows a lot of confidence in their product to do this b/c if the people trying Safari don't like it, they're gone forever. It'll just sit on the desktop. For where it's at on Windows (text appearance, window appearance, etc.) I don't know if that was a good idea.
Posted by: James | April 6, 2008 9:08 PM
Apple have been doing this for a long time with Quicktime and iTunes. I.e. even if you managed to find a Quicktime download, that didn't include iTunes, you would get a Quicktime+iTunes bundle at the next update.
Posted by: AndersH | April 6, 2008 10:53 PM
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9075138&intsrc=news_ts_head
Not winning any friends in network admins either. Just waiting for a systemwide ban of all Apple software in every company, that will teach them a lesson.
Posted by: Fx | April 6, 2008 11:20 PM
Sometimes, when my wife is sleeping, I’ll scratch my butt with my finger and stick it in her mouth.
Posted by: Mary Poppins | April 7, 2008 1:59 PM
I'm going to quit using itunes and starting using SongBird instead.
I think Apple makes great hardware. I might buy a Macbook Air or an iphone and then put GNU/Linux on them.
I have no use for Apple's software.
Posted by: Paul | April 7, 2008 11:18 PM