Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more

October 9, 2007

air mozilla live this wednesday - window snyder and mozilla security

Air Mozilla is the live "call in" show featuring influential Mozilla contributors from all over the world. This week's show will feature Window Snyder, Chief Security Something or Other, talking about Mozilla and Web security.

So join us this Wednesday at air.mozilla.com and on IRC or IM to be a part of the fun.

Who: The Mozilla community, host Asa Dotzler, and special guest Window Snyder.
When: Wednesday, October 10, from 14:00:00 - 15:00:00 PDT (UTC -7.)
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Posted by asa at 11:17 AM

 

reactions, thoughts, comments, etc.

Still the same question: why use AIM and Yahoo! Messenger, which are closed protocols, centralized servers, and proprietary software?

IRC and Jabber are completely OK, because they are open standards.

Posted by: Nÿco | October 9, 2007 1:32 PM

Nÿco, did you read the post? We are using IRC and Jabber, and email, all open standards, but why should we cut off the people who are using AIM and Yahoo? We're not going to block people from participating in Mozilla because of the messaging tools they use. That would be silly.

- A

Posted by: Asa Dotzler | October 9, 2007 3:02 PM

Come on, be honest, one of the main goals of the Mozilla Foundation is to support open standards, it IS silly (your own words) and uncomprehnesible to support closed and proprietary islands that separate people when there are unified and federated open standards that need strong supporters...

Please do consider that.

Look, will Firefox, Thunderbird and XULRunner support closed and proprietary products like Adobe's AIR and Microsoft's Silverlight when you have fully open standards stacks like (X)HTML, CSS, JavaScript, AJAX, XUL, RSS, and the upcoming HTML5 in which Mozilla has invested a lot? No? Well that would be the right thing to do not to support closed and proprietary stuff.

Look also, be honest, why do you support only AIM and Yahoo! Messenger? There are much more millions-of-users-IM systems out there, like ICQ (widely used in Europe), MSN/WLM, QQ (widely used in China), Nate One (widely used in South Korea), Skype, XFire... You are cut for the users of thoses systems. Why don't you support ALL of those closed and proprietary IM systems? Because this is too much? Then you are right. These are closed doors.

We, your users, demand that you NOT use closed and proprietary IM systems.
We, your users, demand that you use and promote open standards IM systems.

Posted by: Nyco | October 9, 2007 11:32 PM

Nyco, you're joking, right? Please tell me you're joking.

- A

Posted by: Asa Dotzler | October 10, 2007 6:36 AM

If he/she's not joking (real funny, ha ha, yeah okay, move along), he/she should speak only for him/herself...(there are more credible [and rational] ways to make a point than with histrionics).


- Me, one of "your users."

Posted by: spud | October 10, 2007 12:12 PM

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