please get firefox from us
I'm reading an increasing number of complaints online that Firefox is charging some monthly fee or installing adware. That's not us. It's most likely people installing something from some scam freeware site. Mozilla doesn't require a credit card to download Firefox. It won't come with toolbars or other third-party crap. Please spread the word. Thanks.
update: I'm not actually talking about the Firefox bundles like Firefox+Google Toolbar here. What I'm talking about are the sites that users register at, download Firefox, and then start receiving a monthly bill for $39, where it's not made clear up front that they're being charged for access to a repository of free software. These sites, and sites that are offering Firefox plus some spyware program without telling the user what they're getting, are the problem, not Firefox+Google Toolbar.
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No, Firefox does come with toolbars, at least Navigation Toolbar and Bookmarks Toolbar. :-P
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March 27, 2007 6:13 PM
I think you can lay a lot of the blame for this on Google ads. When I search for Firefox in Google, the first two results are ads to download from somewhere else, which are pretty subtly marked as such.
Posted by: Allen Pike | March 27, 2007 6:16 PM
Allen: That's not necessarily as bad as Asa suggests - if they are just linking to the Google version of Firefox, which is a proper MoCo partnership product. The two at the top of my search certainly were.
I'm not sure offhand what our exact policy is about AdWords ads for people promoting the Google Toolbar version of Firefox, but at least users will be getting the real deal.
Posted by: Gerv | March 28, 2007 1:16 AM
Pretty much all of the sites I've seen like this are redistributing Firefox with Google Toolbar. I'm assuming that Google is using Mozilla's trademark with permission. If you don't want that, there's no need to "spread the word" to prevent it, just change the terms of the agreements Mozilla has with Google. Many of the sites are (I think) breaking Google's terms for getting paid for promoting Google's Firefox, but that's up to Google to enforce. Some are also abusing Mozilla's trademark, and doing something about that is Mozilla's responsibility.
Posted by: Michael Lefevre | March 28, 2007 1:19 AM
Gerv wrote:
A "proper MoCo partnership product" which comes with a toolbar/third-party crap. It's a matter of opinion how bad it is, but it certainly doesn't help the (potential) user decide whether it's better to get Firefox from mozilla.com or from some third-party site.
Posted by: »Q« | March 28, 2007 4:09 AM
Asa: This post's page is served as ISO-8859-1, but the comment preview page is served as UTF-8. I don't know what can/should be done about that, but it does make it difficult to figure out what encoding to use in comments.
Posted by: .Q. | March 28, 2007 4:13 AM
And yet I filed a trademark bug about such a site a few weeks ago and it seems it hasn't been acted on at all yet...
Posted by: RyanVM | March 28, 2007 9:08 AM
i saw people on ebay selling firefox, and some adverts on google for cheap firefox.. that was years ago, so this aint happening now days, now is it?
Posted by: a | March 28, 2007 5:34 PM