Scoble and others are seeing some serious performance problems in IE 7. What's your experience?
Posted by asa on October 20, 2006 1:20 PM
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It's interesting you should mention that.
My experience may not be the exact opposite, but I find IE7 much more responsive than IE6 anyway. I guess there is a slight (but annoying!) delay when opening a new tab compared to Firefox.
All in all, I see no reason at all to switch to IE7 - I'm staying with Firefox (2). It's quicker (even with loads of extensions) and is way ahead of IE7 when it comes to the latest in CSS. I thought IE7 would get my websites right this time around, but it doesn't even cope with the max-width property!!! (I thought they fixed that...)
The Quick Tabs feature doesn't make me more productive, it's just an extra step to find the right tab. I'd like to encourage the Firefox devs to NOT integrate such a feature in firefox. Again, it does NOT increase productivity - it's basically just eye candy.
The "feature" that I think the Firefox team should have a look at is printing. Getting printing right might be an important advantage in the business (browser) market.
As a follow on from David's comment, it'd be *real* nice if FF could honour CSS print stylesheets including thing such as page-break-inside: avoid. I haven't checked out FF2 so I wouldn't mind being mistaken that this isn't already there.
It feels the same to me. IE7 just feels slower than Firefox 2.0 RC3 or Opera 9.02. Navigating between pages. Spawning tabs. AJAXey stuff like Google Maps. IE7 feels just like IE6... clunky.
Heh. Are you telling me it would be quicker on Vista? I think not, mate. Vista will be such a fat lady that you won't be able to afford a computer to run it on for another two years, let alone the Windows licence... :D
On my parents computer, the only one running windows in the house, it seems slower then IE 6. Also for some reason on my mom's account a few seconds after you start it it jumps to 99% cpu usage and won't let it go. I end up having to kill the process. It only happens on her account and now I have the joy of finding out why.
Off course the page is made to demonstrate the new possibilities with css and alpha-transparant png's in IE7. And Microsoft wouldn't make a page that was performing badly in its own browser. But still an area to hope for future optimizations in FF? I mean now that also IE supports position fixed and other "new" css features, people might actually start using them...
The really sad bit is that it's a dog on Vista, too. Even while everything else is shiny and snappy (as befits a freshly-installed version of a freshly-minted OS), the browser feels like... well, like the copy of Firefox i have running on the laptop next to it. Except that Firefox has about 20 tabs open and as many extensions installed, including debuggers and such, while IE has one lone tab open to Windows Live Search.
I would be happy, if they just supported enough of the HTML/CSS technology, that things could be coded properly. The two major issues, are to do with forms.
1.) CSS styling on input[type=button] is just a nogo in IE6/IE7 which just plain sucks.
2.) The button element doesn't work properly either, so you can't even use it as a workaround.
If they fixed both of the above, I couldn't care how fast/slow it was, since I could at least develop using standards that were set at the begining of this decade!
Actually, I am finding IE7 to load slower that Firefox, and a lot slower that IE6. It feels like a cheap and nasty fix to some serious problems. They've added tabs and open search, yet not really looked into getting the basics right.
I haven't gotten anything done today. I feel like a fog, but what can I say? I've just been letting everything wash over me lately, not that it matters. Shrug.
reactions, thoughts, comments, etc.
It's interesting you should mention that.
My experience may not be the exact opposite, but I find IE7 much more responsive than IE6 anyway. I guess there is a slight (but annoying!) delay when opening a new tab compared to Firefox.
All in all, I see no reason at all to switch to IE7 - I'm staying with Firefox (2). It's quicker (even with loads of extensions) and is way ahead of IE7 when it comes to the latest in CSS. I thought IE7 would get my websites right this time around, but it doesn't even cope with the max-width property!!! (I thought they fixed that...)
The Quick Tabs feature doesn't make me more productive, it's just an extra step to find the right tab. I'd like to encourage the Firefox devs to NOT integrate such a feature in firefox. Again, it does NOT increase productivity - it's basically just eye candy.
The "feature" that I think the Firefox team should have a look at is printing. Getting printing right might be an important advantage in the business (browser) market.
Posted by: David Naylor | October 20, 2006 1:51 PM
As a follow on from David's comment, it'd be *real* nice if FF could honour CSS print stylesheets including thing such as page-break-inside: avoid. I haven't checked out FF2 so I wouldn't mind being mistaken that this isn't already there.
Posted by: Bruce Boughton | October 20, 2006 2:19 PM
It feels the same to me. IE7 just feels slower than Firefox 2.0 RC3 or Opera 9.02. Navigating between pages. Spawning tabs. AJAXey stuff like Google Maps. IE7 feels just like IE6... clunky.
Posted by: John T. Haller | October 20, 2006 2:38 PM
Of course they'd make it slow as molasses on XP. How else will they shift copies of Vista? :)
Posted by: ant | October 20, 2006 3:05 PM
Heh. Are you telling me it would be quicker on Vista? I think not, mate. Vista will be such a fat lady that you won't be able to afford a computer to run it on for another two years, let alone the Windows licence... :D
Posted by: David Naylor | October 20, 2006 5:09 PM
On my parents computer, the only one running windows in the house, it seems slower then IE 6. Also for some reason on my mom's account a few seconds after you start it it jumps to 99% cpu usage and won't let it go. I end up having to kill the process. It only happens on her account and now I have the joy of finding out why.
Posted by: Monkey | October 20, 2006 5:36 PM
The following page performs MUCH better in IE7 than in FF1.5 and FF2.0rc3. Try scrolling the page in IE7 and FF:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/ietechcol/cols/dnexpie/cssZenGarden.htm
Off course the page is made to demonstrate the new possibilities with css and alpha-transparant png's in IE7. And Microsoft wouldn't make a page that was performing badly in its own browser. But still an area to hope for future optimizations in FF? I mean now that also IE supports position fixed and other "new" css features, people might actually start using them...
Posted by: Stig | October 20, 2006 10:26 PM
The really sad bit is that it's a dog on Vista, too. Even while everything else is shiny and snappy (as befits a freshly-installed version of a freshly-minted OS), the browser feels like... well, like the copy of Firefox i have running on the laptop next to it. Except that Firefox has about 20 tabs open and as many extensions installed, including debuggers and such, while IE has one lone tab open to Windows Live Search.
Posted by: Shog9 | October 21, 2006 8:02 AM
I would be happy, if they just supported enough of the HTML/CSS technology, that things could be coded properly. The two major issues, are to do with forms.
1.) CSS styling on input[type=button] is just a nogo in IE6/IE7 which just plain sucks.
2.) The button element doesn't work properly either, so you can't even use it as a workaround.
If they fixed both of the above, I couldn't care how fast/slow it was, since I could at least develop using standards that were set at the begining of this decade!
Posted by: Gary | October 21, 2006 8:12 PM
I find it ironic that Asa'd attack IE for speed. Firefox loads almost as slow as an entire operating system.
Posted by: John | October 23, 2006 7:37 AM
John, can you point me to my "attack". I don't see where I did that. Are you referring to some other post?
- A
Posted by: Asa Dotzler | October 23, 2006 7:47 AM
IE7 has been running just fine for me since it was released
Posted by: Mitchel Tyrell | October 23, 2006 7:50 PM
While trolling, John has a point.
IE7 loads much faster than Firefox.
Firefox browses much faster than IE7.
Posted by: David Naylor | October 23, 2006 9:52 PM
Actually, I am finding IE7 to load slower that Firefox, and a lot slower that IE6. It feels like a cheap and nasty fix to some serious problems. They've added tabs and open search, yet not really looked into getting the basics right.
Posted by: Greg | October 30, 2006 12:18 AM
I haven't gotten anything done today. I feel like a fog, but what can I say? I've just been letting everything wash over me lately, not that it matters. Shrug.
Posted by: Sten27977 | March 21, 2007 1:20 AM