Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more

While I don't know if this is possible with leopard (I would assume it is), since 10.2 or so you've been able to install the OS on an external drive. So I would suggest the safest/easiest way to at least try it out would be to grab an external firewire HD (you can get >=80GB ones for under $100 these days if you don't already have one lying around), and just install it on there. Then select that HD as your startup drive, and voila, it should "just work".

Of course then you have to lug around an external drive with you if you start to actually use leopard as your primary OS.

-Ben

Macs for a few years now have had a built-in boot menu in firmware. Just hold down the option key at boot to bring it up. The main special thing about Boot Camp is it emulates BIOS so Windows will boot. The built-in boot menu is only capable of booting Mac-based stuff (and things that purposely trick it into thinking they're Mac-based, such as various Linux distros).

Yes, like mentioned above, there is a boot manager built into the firmware.

If you can get your drive partitioned, you can just install 10.5 on the other partition and boot whichever you like. I know that the Boot Camp wizard can *shrink* you existing OS X partition (that's actually the only way I know of to do it without losing data or using a third-party tool). You may be able to use the built-in Disk Utility to create the second partiton, or I'm sure there are plenty of Mac partitioning tools out there (someone else will know more).

How you got your hands on a Leopard preview install DVD is my question.

See the story at http://www.hardmac.com/articles/60/, it looks like time machine offers to backup your current HD before installing leopard. Does that help? :)

Manoj:

Apple gave them away to developers at the recent WWDC 06 conference.

ASA ASA ASA ASA I GOT TO RIDE IN A HELICOPTER!!!!! AND TAKE THE STILLS ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITH A CANON 20D ! IT WAS THE COOLEST THING EVER. I WILL BLOG LATER WHEN I HAVE A HARD DRIVE.

Asa:

Don't install it! It's horribly evil! Quick, ship it to me so I may properly take care of the situation!

Hi Asa

Firefox runs no problem at all if it is the only case1 Though if your MBP is your main machine ok dont do it, even though this leopard is pretty stable lots of people have reported problems either with finder or Mail or compatibility issues with other programms.

In my case .Firefox nad Thunder run VERY VERY nice so..no issues...but anyway its a very very early beta..lets wait a bit more! I got back to 10.4.7 ..there is still a long way until easter.

I have to say though tha Leopard seems quite fast on Intel Macs it is more tha obvious that is is going to be optimized for Intel Macs..the launcing of apps and generally the whole feeling was better than 10.4.7. So we just have to wait until it is stable!

King Regards and greetings from Greece

HiHo: Not even 'Answers.com' could tell me what MBP stood for!!?? MacBookPro ??? - one of hundreds but it seems to fit?! - after a 10 minute search - found a dandy acronym finder site though -
Http://www.acronymfinder.com
Cheers Guy Jim C.

I am getting tired of all the Mac posts. Lets get back to cats. Now that was exciting blogging.

We're talking about cats. Just big ones. Tigers and Lepoards ;-)

Slightly unrelated, and apologies if this strays into the off-topic, but an update to Boot Camp was released either today or yesterday, with support for iSight and right-click using the right hand command (apple) key.

Asa have you succeeded in instaling Lepoard yet? Let us know how it drives!

You can use the command line hdiutil to resize your existing Tiger partition just like Bootcamp does but without adding all the BIOS stuff to it so you could install a different version of OSX on the same drive without disturbing the original one. Just google "hdiutil resize" and you should be able to find what you need.

actually when you install leopard it retains everything you had on your computer before the intall and just adds the leopard apps. and firefox does work on it.

I agree with Ben, the least-risky way to test-drive leopard is to
install it on a firewire drive, that way your existing Tiger install just
shows up as a disk and is not used while you're booted into
Leopard. As more Leopard previews come out, you can just wipe
the firewire partition and reinstall again.

This is how I am test-driving Leopard at home, it's working great.
Check out the MyBook firewire drives, they're quiet and have both
firewire and USB connections.

-Chris

on intel macs you can istall on usb external drive.

Yeah I have leopard intalled but it got stuck for a while on BSD Subsystem. So I had to barrow my friends Leopard WWDC DVD now it works, and I have had no problems out of anything everythings great, and awesome!! One thing it's not giving me my leopard updates? I don't no why though? Does anyone now where I could download them at?

thanks 
-cody

Yeah I have leopard intalled but it got stuck for a while on BSD Subsystem. So I had to barrow my friends Leopard WWDC DVD now it works, and I have had no problems out of anything everythings great, and awesome!! One thing it's not giving me my leopard updates? I don't no why though? Does anyone now where I could download them at? I think the recent one is Build 9a303
thanks 
-cody

I would check out "The Bay O' Pirates" *wink*. 9a303 is there but the torrent contains another torrent in it. when you open it be sure to give it an hour to find the peers then, it may take several days to get it.

also if anyone here is an oink member please consider sending me a 'vite to resxhacker@gmail.com