Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more

While it's not 'bad', it doesn't seem anything more than Midas connected to some back-end libraries to export to word/pdf/etc.

Again, cool and usefull, but I can't believe Michael Robertson is tooting this as a MS killer let alone even comparable. It's not even comparable to the first release of star office from years ago.

Did he mean to compare it to WordPad??

I think it is neat.

I'm not too web-savvy, but what I wanted to do was download the application to my desktop, and run it from there, albeit in the browser, but without necessarily being connected to the internet, and maybe look it's code (like you can with this little application --> http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/color-blend/ ). I found it difficult (in fact, in 1 minute of trying, I didn't succeed). I'm not uncomfortable running applications in the browser, but I'd like to have some clue about what is going on. Do I have to go to some web site every day just to download my word processor? Should I worry about what the program is doing? Could it be sending all that I write in the program somewhere without my understanding?

I cannot believe that their faq ignores those questions. Web applications are a totally obvious paradigm shift, even to computer novices.

I'd rather that it be easy to delineate between programs on the web, and programs residing on the computer, even if they use the web-browser.

Yet another keyboard-inaccessible AJAX application. :-P

> Could it be sending all that I write in the program somewhere without my understanding?

Of course. If you load a document, it's actually uploaded to the server. If you safe a document, it has to be sent to the server again.
That's why I would prefer an offline version, too.

Of course AJAX will continue along the same path as all previous technologies.

It will reach a point where it is *almost* usefull, *almost* feature complete, *almost* good enough, when it will be replaced by a complete rewrite in a new 'trendy' language/framework.

Give me a decient word processer in c, c++, Ada, anything! Hook it up to some web events. Hell, whats wrong with OOo + HTML export + ftp?

Oh, who knows.

At least all these technologies keep programmers employed ;-)

monk.e.boy

> Google Talk which, yes, communicates as plain-text

Then why not connect to their Jabber servers with something like Gaim which supports TLS?

I'm not feeling to jazzed about the AJAX hotness at the moment, using a tempremental wifi connection in spain. Without constant high bandwidth services like Blogger have been a bit of a nightmare. I would like to be able to work offline until the last possible moment but none of these apps seem to enable anything like that.

OOPS! — Javascript Disabled or Missing

daarn it, it is enabled!

OOPS! — Javascript Disabled or Missing or I Are Stupid

asa, this trend is going about as far as this dang error message i keep getting.

also check out www.fckeditor.net/ no thats not a typoe

okay.. i went to 2.0a where everything is set default, and it worked.. it's pretty interesting after all!

http://207.67.194.7/apps/write/content/index.xul?doc=http://207.67.194.7/apps/write/welcome.html&user=&pass=?path=&user=&pass=&doc=http://app.ajaxwrite.com/apps/write/welcome.html

inconjunction with mozilla firefox's spellchecker you can drop wordpad, and micosort work, although I wish this could be downloaded so I can use it without a connectioN!!!!!!!

I think Moore's Law also applies to programming languages: the processing power needed to get anything useful done doubles every 18 months. Compare BeOS to Windows XP, for example.

The developers sound really arrogant, sort of like they're prophets or mind readers or something. That or they think people are idiots. The only people at the moment who know what an AJAX application is, is someone who has at least a little technical skill. They really make it sound like their average user has an IQ of 40.

"Google Office is vaporware meaning people talk about it, but it exists only in the press' imagination. People interested in a traditional office suite should absolutely try OpenOffice.org because it's a capable office suite available at no charge. But not even Google's engineers can turn the giant semi-truck like OpenOffice into a hybrid vehicle that can run over the net like ajaxWrite."

Its cool but I dont like the idea of using a web-based anything run by someone that won't disclose how my information's being used and sold.

Hi,
Ajaxwrite just hung Firefox and I had to force close it. Luckily I have SessionSaver and all my open websites were restored for me, so I could continue where I left off.

Hi again,
I believe this hangup should not happen: When I click on Save with the example document open, Firefox just hangs. Maybe someone more skilled could investigate this.