Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more

Funny way to announce it, but the update worked perfectly, thanks a lot!!

Dex

Cool, I'm updating as of now.

Okay before I do... I have a question If the updates don't work out, how do we revert back to the older version? would a system restore work? or are they put into some folder?

well you can reinstall firefox if you want. i dont think a system restore will work. o and does anyone know how many bugs were fixed from rc1 to rc2. im guessing about 50. and what about the plugin finder, is it still broken?

Updated without a hitch and working like a charm...

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051107 Firefox/1.5

Okay overall went smooth... the update didn't complain about incompatible extensions [GOOD!] I don't see any news bugs i'd have to welcome and hopefully it will become 1.5 :D thanks.

The update worked perfectly the first time. Thanks.

Apparently I am not a hip kid.., nothing happens here :-/

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051025 Firefox/1.5

Way to go!!

Thank you..........

Mike
USA

Clean and painless. :)
I did notice though, that Update History only shows one item, while I updated from Beta 2 to RC1 and from RC1 to RC2. Does the fact that during the first update it downloaded the entire thing matter or is this intended behavior?

As far as I know mine hasnt updated. And it finds no updates available.
String doesnt give much info:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; es-ES; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051025 Firefox/1.5
But it's Build 2005102519 (whatever that is)

Same here. no updates found
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051025 Firefox/1.5

Here the update ran well. ID 2005102519 on ID 2005110712.

to MTO: i dont know if the localized builds are out yet

Just connected to my work PC and updated with no issues, the only thing I noticed different to my home PC which wont find updates is my work PC is running en-US version (is the en-GB & es-ES versions released yet)

P.S
What’s the difference between en-GB & en-US versions?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051107 Firefox/1.5

funny thing that the homepage is not updated yet

Updated like a charm!

For the two people using RC1 who are not getting the update, can you please tell us what is listed in the app.update.channel setting in about:config?

Also, only en-US is out now. The locales will follow.

I downloaded the update, but it didn't work.

Worked well! I used the new update-feature for the first time. Really k3w1 :-)

I love Fx! Great work, keep it up! THX!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051107 Firefox/1.5

The two people that were having issues updating are both using localized builds (sorry I missed that the first time), which haven't yet been updated.

Update worked automagically RC1 --> RC2.

Everything updated nicely. And it seems random half-freezes and crashes are now in the past. Yay!

Hmm. Many people think this is Firefox 1.5 final, since the updater screen said "1.5" rather than "1.5rc2". ASA, can you post clarification as to what is released, eg: not final, just 1.5rc2 and include the useragent string that is for rc2?

Updating didn't happen automatically for me- I had to initiate Check for Updates. How often does the update checking happen and is there an easy way to change it? The closest I've found is the value of app.update.interval which is set to 86400, although I'm not sure what that means.

Has someone considered creating an extension for Firefox that allows you to adjust the updating settings through a GUI instead of only through about:config? That'd be pretty sweet.

The update did work flawlessly and I'm now running 20051107 (which is labeled 1.5 with no RC behind it).

Updated very smoothly, and the crashes seems gone. Cool!
The only drawback is that the google toolbar does not seems to work with this version.. :P

app.update.channel value is "release"

I guess this is as has been suggested that the reason is because of me using a localized version.

I would expect that since we now have this update feature delayed localized versions wouldnt be as much of a problem anymore... at least for small updates where no new localized text is needed (and my guess is that from RC1 to RC2 there is none). By what I've observed some localized versions take as long as a month or more to be released. Will this update feature remove that delay (in small updates as security updates) or is it not that simple?
:-)

Buzz, I believe the only difference between the en-GB & en-US version is that color is spelled right in en-US and spelled weirdly (colour!) in en-GB. ;)

But seriously, I think the only difference is a few words that are spelled differently. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.

release of 1.5RC2?
aren't there 4 unfixed blockers left ?
## 313900,0314119,314484,315285

The current release process for all locales, platforms, updates, signing, tagging, and source builds takes 4 days of work (give or take a half-day). As of Tuesday morning l10n was on track to have a simultaneous release but on Tuesday afternoon Axel -- our l10n liaison -- made the decision that we would respin 1.5rc2 l10n builds so they are based on the 1.5 final l10n lockdown Wednesday instead of the l10n repository two days prior. This gave localizers two more days to get changes into 1.5rc2.

If you think about it, the decision makes sense: 1.5rc2 candidates will get wider testing than l10n nightlies so getting those changes in the candidates can get more exposure of the l10n final work.

We have passed the 1.5 final lockdown for l10n. I'm putting together the pieces needed for the 1.5rc2 l10n release now. Expect Firefox 1.5rc2 l10n builds and updates to be released Monday.

Before the releases where always named "1.0 Release Candidate 1" etc, but nowdays it simply says 1.5 in the about dialog. I find that a bit of a pity since now not will informed websites can claim that they have the 1.5 release.

Before u always knew what build y ou have, but now it's not possible to tell by the build. Not a major issue, but still, why was this policy changed?

One thing i did notice is the update shows progress in 64kb blocks. This is a minor nuiance, because on dialup it looks like it has stalled.

This is the first time I've seen the new update thing at work. Very sleek!

I still think #283697 should get fixed, though.

The "More info about this update" link in the Help > Updates menu links to a page with information on... 1.0.7 and lower.

Asa,

The update appears to work, but there is no easy way I can prove to myself that it worked, because I can't find an actual string "1.5rc2" anywhere, such as within about:config or Help/About Mozilla Firefox menu option. May I suggest to put the rcX string into the Help/About box?

"Partial Update could not be applied. Downloading whole something-or-other"

..but I'm running Portable Firefox. Still, it'd be nice :-)

 a:link {
 	color: #0C79CA;
	border-bottom: .09em solid #0C79CA;
	text-decoration: none;
 }

That's the CSS governing the link underline on this page: http://alan.pixelsandpages.com/

As you can see, in Firefox 1.5, the underlines are either 1 or 2 pixels... In all other tested browsers (and Firefox 1.0), it consistently rounds to one or two pixels wide, but NOT BOTH on one single page.

@Alan H, try .08em. It usually works in Windows-based browsers. (Probably not in Linux) ;-)

The binaries are out, get em while they're hot.

Portable Firefox has been updated to 1.5 RC2 as well:
http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_firefox/deer_park/

And for fans of the portable apps, I released Portable Gaim 1.5 Beta:
http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/portable_gaim/

And the Portable Apps Suite (all 8 apps, preconfigured):
http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/portable_apps_suite/

The only visible difference between RC1 and RC2 (besides the fixes we took between them) is the build ID, which varies by over a week. See for yourself by going to Help -> About and viewing the user agent string.

No scrollbars and can't see the options window.

r

Sorry to report that RC2 is NOT ready for prime time. The Tools/Options/Privacy screen is still cut off at the right.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5650/options1wh.jpg

Not for me.. is this windows, what version?

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/777/ff3qf.png

Neil try it with a new profile..

HOLY CRAP! 109,087,567 mb's of memory!!

Viewing http://indyskate.com/kickpopmike2.gif in RC2 still causes 100% CPU time (after the GIF has loaded completely) and infinitely continues to allocate more and more RAM. Leave it going long enough and it'll probably consume the whole swapfile (I wasn't game to try it).

This is a serious regression from the beta.

this version of firefox uses the most memory of all versionss. :(

Anon wrote: "Viewing http://indyskate.com/kickpopmike2.gif in RC2 still causes 100% CPU time (after the GIF has loaded completely) and infinitely continues to allocate more and more RAM."

I tried this to see what would happen (3.4 GHz Northwood P4 w/HT turned on; overclocked to a 962 MHz FSB; 1 GB RAM; ATI Radeon 9800 Pro; XP Pro SP2 ... tweaked/tuned to the max, of course) ... my CPU utilization never exceeded 2% using RC2 (downloading the file via broadband).

Anon wrote: "Viewing http://indyskate.com/kickpopmike2.gif in RC2 still causes 100% CPU time (after the GIF has loaded completely) and infinitely continues to allocate more and more RAM."

Really? On my average work pc IBM T30, 512MB, XP PR0, Mobile P4 1.8, ATi MOBILE
Radeon 7500. So neglilible... most seen was 1% CPU. Don't know what your setup is but something sounds way wrong.

On another note, update went perfectly. Mr Tech Local Install made all extensions warned as non-compatible, compatible.

> Anon wrote: "Viewing http://indyskate.com/kickpopmike2.gif in RC2 still causes 100% CPU time (after the GIF has loaded completely) and infinitely continues to allocate more and more RAM."

NVIDIA card? Then reads:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=326295&sid=10ffe6f2e3bb6fbe0674d66b18ddccf2

Last time, German version was offered to download immediately, now I neither get it automatically nor manually. Only English version is ready...

Still anticipating en-GB update ....

86400 is likely to be every 24 hours; since there are 86400 seconds in one day.

Hi,

I am using "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051025 Firefox/1.5" (Firefox RC1 german), but my Firefox keeps saying there are no updates? When will the localised version be updated?

Responding to "Ytas": When I installed RC1 I did start with a new profile.

YTAS - the tabbed browsing box in your options is different to default I'm sure. The icon is different and text, in 1.5 it just says Tabs or something. Yours says Tabbed Browsing which makes the button itself, bigger than all the other sections buttons. This may be caused by an extension such as TBP? Look into to this and report to the right place to try get it fixed.

so, out of curiosity, if RC2 ends up *not* being the final released "1.5" then what rev will we use for RC3? ... now that RC2 is listed as "1.5."

Jeff, RC1 was called "1.5". Release candidates are builds that can become the release if we don't find problems. RC3, if it were to happen, would also be called "1.5".

- A

Why on Linux the menu item Help > Check for updates... is grayed out? (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051107 Firefox/1.5)

@Neil You still NEED to start a new profile for 1.5 RC2, just to confirm it's an actual bug and not that tab browser crap or whatever other extensions and report back. listen, my firefox has all sorts of wierd bugs because i'm using my profile from deerpark 2.. I tried it with a new profile and it worked just fine.. no need to get this all in a huff.

Neil: I have seen that cutoff issue too, but only when the Tabbrowser Preferences extension is installed (without that extension installed there is no issue). There are a few other extensions such as Fasterfox that also may cause issues.

I forgot to mention. It didn't really update quite right. Partial update failed, but full download worked. Both XP and Win 98 SE systems, no extensions.

Neil, this is Bug 283697 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283697
A workaround is to add the following to userChrome.css...

#BrowserPreferences {
width: 43em !important;
height: 43em !important;
}

Adjust the numbers as necessary.

Find as you Type:

1. Type something that's on the current page and allow the Find as you Type feature to pick it up.
2. Allow the current search to become inactive long enough for the Find as you Type bar to disappear and the selection colour to go back to normal.
3. Press F3.

Everything you select after that will be highlighted in the colour used by Find as you Type.

Yeah. no updates. It't pitty

Asa,
I'm getting Firefox 1.5 RC2 for Sam's new computer. Sam is going to become computer literate, finally. Keep up the good work bro.

Paul

Paul, that's great! Tell him to drop me a line :-)

- A

partial update failed (5th time),.. gosh I bet it has to do with renaming firefox.exe?

oh yeah.. it updated but didn't overright because I renamed.. chuckle chuckle chuckle

seems stable now thx? (RC1 wasn't)
q: can automatic update work in windows in limited user accounts? seeing as users should always not run as Admin, this is kinda major flaw if not hmm?

Looks like there will be an RC3: http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2005/11/11/2005-11-11-branch-respin/

annoying new bug: When the field history is visible in a form (the drop down that allows you to select things you typed into that field before), SELECTs no longer work. To select something in a SELECT, you have to get the field history to disappear first.

I had to update manually from RC1 to RC2 on both home and work computers.

I'm not being able to load Yahoo! Maps beta in 1.5 RC2 on Windows XP. Have no problem with this in 1.0.7. Anyone else with the problem?

>> update For those wondering why this is called Firefox 1.5 and not Firefox 1.5 RC2, it's because this is a genuine release candidate. The build you have, if not problems are found, will be Firefox 1.5.

Then I suggest that the build number for each release "20051107" be displayed on each web page about that release (download, release notes, ...) Knowledge is power!

I know this is not revelent but this will get better view..

Asa can you guys fix this bug!
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45375

This is a missing feature that has been gone for more than 5 years! if you could fix this great but if you can add multiline tooltips for all links even better.. this is and other bugs that's takes decades to get approval could hold mozilla back, if not in 1.5 rc3 or 1.5 why not in a nightly release?

Asa it's sad when Internet explorer is the only browser that does tooltips the way ther were intended.. I doubt this will convince mozilla to fix it anyways since most my request go ignored anyway.

http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/5402/untitled1vz.png

Asa, today I was sent the update for the swedish (windows) version, RC1 -> RC2. It seemed to download ok, but couldn't be installed on restart so it had to get the whole 6.0 MB download. Thought you ought to know, since 1.5 is soon going L-I-V-E (I guess).

Hm, bug?
When i close (scroll-wheel click) a tab, the new tab that receives the focus displays the title of the closed tab. :-(

1.5RC2, XP PRO SP2