Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more

Zarro Blockers? The AMO bug isn't a blocker anymore? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304857

So far win 1.5 test is working smooth here :)

@amano: that bug has nothing to do with the firefox code. its a website problem.

So far today's Mac Build 2005102603 has been working perfectly for 9 hours now. Pure fun, thanks a lot!!

Dex

Ahm, Asa, the Mac Build 2005102519 you're linking to still had problems with the Phantom Scrollbars, not a good idea to use it as test release for RC1. In Mac Build 2005102603 that pretty obvious problem doesn't turn up anymore.

Dex

If we downloaded Fx 1.5b2 (and we're presumably on the "beta" channel), will we be notified to upgrade to 1.5RC1? If we decline to upgrade to RC1, will be be able to upgrade from 1.5b2 to 1.5 or will we be forced to take the route from 1.5b2 -> 1.5RC1 -> 1.5?

I'm asking because of the people's computers I've installed this on. My mother is still running on 1.0.7 because of extension compatibility issues and because she needs to take change slowly. My friend is a little more technical, just by the generation she grew up in, but she is one of those (lots) of people that never update her software. I installed 1.5b2 on her computer so that she'll be more agressively influenced to take an upgrade path herself, and I'm just wondering what kind of experiences these two Regular People ;) (and myself) are in for.

Thanks!

I nominated https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313422 for a thunderbird blocking bug. The RSS reader is not useful any longer for me because some feeds do not work any more.

Tobias

Is it just me, or is the URLbar still broken? Right now I have 5 tabs. If I ctrl-pgup/pgdn through them, all but one show this blog post's URL as the URL of the tab. Basically, right now, the first three tabs' URLbars are broken. They show the URL of whatever newer (tabs 4 theough x) tab was up there before. Tab 6 now has Google.com, so the first three show that if I switch to them, etc. Basically, there just seems to eb massive URLbar breakage. Makes copying URLs hard.

I'm feeling a little uneasy about a Gecko bug that wasn't there previously:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312777
http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/bugs/gecko1.8b2+_negativefloats/

Also mentioned on:
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/

I suppose this could break sites that have been working in Firefox until now? Shouldn't this be considered a blocker, then?

Ignore me, this is probably an extension.

Unfortunately, the Find bar is giving incorrect search results with tabs. Bugs 313653 and 313657. It's a pain in the neck if you try to search multiple tabs, but I'll leave it to you to decide if it's a blocker.

Hmm, this build seems slower than B2.

Also, I still want 283697 to be fixed. :|

It seems especially slow when first starting up (I mostly keep my browser open day after day, only restart it occasionally or when it crashes) with a bunch of tabs already open (courtesy of the SessionSaver extension).

This RC1 test is slower and some of the extentions don't work for instance, google, I don't think, it is normal. The tab fuction is also having problems as it does not open new tabs instead it opens new windows.

I would consider https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313220 a pretty bad bug, but then I'm a Greasemonkey programmer. The comments on this entry have put me off from testing 1.5rc1, so I don't know whether the bug still occurs there. Can someone test and confirm or close the bug?

Though this may be a known problem, I found that the "Read Mail" menu (Tools -> Read Mail) showed incorrect notification. It says I have 17 new mails, while I have no unread mails as a matter of fact. My default mailer is not Thunderbird ;-) I use it as a RSS reader :-)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051025 Firefox/1.5 ID:2005102519

OK, for what it's worth:

I had updated to 2005102603 (today, I think).

I downloaded and installed RC1 from the link above. This appeared to be version 2005102519. I installed it over the above version (2005102603).

I then did an update (from the "update" channel, no other updates were available through Update Channel Selector) and was back (ahead?) at 2005102603.

It would appear that the above version for RC1 was updated.

My question: Is this what the developers are expecting, that the most current version (as of today) should be 2005102603 ?

Again, submitted for what it's worth. Thanks again for all the hard work.

Sincerely,

Lawrence
Ithaca, NY

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051026 Firefox/1.5 - Build ID: 2005102603

Bug 307678 looks pretty nasty. I have a feeling it'll have high visibility. It should be a blocker, IMO.

The update system seesm to have been fixed. :]

Definitely not a blocker, but this is quite a GUI annoyance:

In the Print Setup dialog (File->Page Setup) under the "Format & Options" tab, switching from Portrait to Landscape (and vice versa) makes the bottom tab area jump wildly.

I am going to nominate https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265736 as a blocker for FF 1.5, I just tested and it still crashes the test release posted above. It's marked critical but no one has gotten around to fixing it.

@Asa, why don't u care for THUNDERBIRD RC in your blog? Why don't u link to these RC builds? It's like a wallflower here. -Amsterdammer

I'm having the bug too where force links that open new windows to open in new tabs is checked, sometimes works, but on most sites still ignores it and opens it in new window. Other then that no problems.

Mike, that's intentional (see bug 313300). I'd be interested to see a list of sites where it doesn't work the way you expect.

Mike, btw, you can change that back to the previous behavior by going to about:config and changing browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction from 2 to 0.

Yea I played with it some more and see how the behavior has changed. It used to open everything in the new tab of instead of new window, now it ignores new windows that specify a window size. So its working fine.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265736

ouch! that's diffenetly a blocker.

Agh! This for me should be a huge blocker:
It's installation delete's all your preiouss custom search engines!

It really sucks, I cant recover them... I had many of them that were custom made by me for my own personal needs... lots of hours of work. Lost!

Reported here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314137
This to me is a blocker, it's as critical as deleting personal bookmarks.

Look here!!! http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/examples This is nasty CSS regression bug.
Regression from Firefox 1.x or RC1 - I don't remember...
It will be headache for web designers if you release good browser with this bug. :(
P.S. Also don't forget look here: http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/appendix/exampleresults (look at Firefox 1.5b1 row).

Any suggestion on how to test this for auto update?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314274 has been filed to address the CSS regression issue cited by MTO

Ever heard of "backing-up" your files......hehe

Backing up Firefox profile... once in a while, yes, I do it.
Backing up program folder... no. I guess that is one of the (good) reasons why searchplugins are being changed from location... problem is all those who like me had custom searchplugins are going to see them dissapear without any notice once they upgrade.

Thanks for the update, Asa. I'm using the RC1 build on Windows XP SP1, and have found no problems/issues so far.

I did however read about a bug with CSS layout (floats and negatives), which has been submitted as "Bugzilla Bug 312777 Negative margins cause floated elements to be placed to the right of incorrect earlier boxes". I haven't validated this problem myself, as I'm not that much of a CSS expert.

More information at http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/bugs/gecko1.8b2+_negativefloats/. Anyway, thanks for continuing to contribute to a quality product. Happy Halloween!

"Is it just me, or is the URLbar still broken? Right now I have 5 tabs. If I ctrl-pgup/pgdn through them, all but one show this blog post's URL as the URL of the tab. Basically, right now, the first three tabs' URLbars are broken. They show the URL of whatever newer (tabs 4 theough x) tab was up there before. Tab 6 now has Google.com, so the first three show that if I switch to them, etc. Basically, there just seems to eb massive URLbar breakage. Makes copying URLs hard."
Like Grey Hodge reported on October 26, 2005, I am also facing this problem. But the only extension I have installed is Greasemonkey.

I have to say the biggest bug that I still get is upgrading from 1.0.x -> 1.5 results in firefox no longer launching (on windows).

Standard 1.0 install, vanilla upgrade from a downloaded windows .exe isntaller, and afterwards when you run the new firefox it just silently fails. No errors, nothing, it just stops working.

This occurs with both firefox and thunderbird.

I can't see how we are close to an RC when you can even upgrade from a previous release properly :/