Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more

I know we'll hit the 10% mark soon :) ...probably before FF 1.1 comes out even.

I like how you said "and Opera Software ASA's Opera, with 0.59%." That's funny.

Humurous: Asa didn't say it, PC World did.

Looks like they still bs'ing "PC World's World Class: 04 and 05"

Oh lol. It makes it that much funnier.

Cool Firefox is taking down the big giant 0.5 to 1 percent at a time.

I thought we have passed 10% long long time ago. Maybe I was wrong… :-P

Me too.. ^

That is awesome news.

It's funny you posted this, I just read that PC World article in the airport yesterday. Keep it up guys.

Interesting that no one is pointing to evidence of a drop in Firefox usage in the last month of a full percentage point at http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

TEN PERCENT

I think Firefox has already reached 10%. PC World's stats are highly skewed towards IE and away from alternative browsers. As much as Opera is not my favorite browser, I can't believe it only has a half a percent of market share. Stats will be out from other outlets soon also, and we have to keep an eye on those.

oops... sorry didn't notice the stats came from NetApplications.

> Interesting that no one is pointing to evidence of a drop in Firefox usage in the last month of a full percentage point at http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

"The browser statistics below were adjusted in July 2005 to reflect page views instead of visits."

So the browsers with a bad cache will win...

As much as Opera is not my favorite browser, I can't believe it only has a half a percent of market share.

Actually, many stats compilers peg Opera at between 0.5% and 1.0%.

Stats will be out from other outlets soon also, and we have to keep an eye on those.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to an update from WebsideStory (even though they are US business-centric) and OneStat. Then I'll be able to provide a more meaningful update to this:
http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/browser_statistics/

> So the browsers with a bad cache will win...

All 0 of them.

Just to clarify, "Opera Software ASA" is the full name of the company that makes the Opera browser. ASA is short for Allmennaksjeselskap, which is a type of corporation in Norway. So it's used like "Inc." is in America. It has nothing to do with this blog's namesake.

Am I the only one who doesn't see 0.7% as being "a full percentage point"?

(FF gained 0.67%, IE lost 0.71% - according to the numbers given)

Try that the other way 'round, fyo.

FFx gained 0.71%
IE lost 0.67%

Also, try quoting the source correctly and in context.

Asa didn't say it was "a full percentage point", he said "... nearly another full percentage point..."

Anyone else find it funny that W3Schools seems to be twisting the numbers to keep IE with the biggest percentage?

Then again, they are a completely MS-powered website.

ant,

Looks that way. W3Schools has changed their statistics to show page views instead of just visits...

sorry, i'm bored :/

even wc3schools shows that Opera 7 + Opera 8 are over 1%...

iopg: w3schools gives the alternative browsers higher usage figures than you can expect them to have in the general public, since it is a site aimed at webmasters and webmaster wannabes.

In Finland the Firefox share is about 15%. That is the rough figure from the most popular online store in here. IE's share is about 84% and the rest is for Opera (but IIRC Opera quite often identifies itself as IE).

Finnish, any site monitoring software that was created in the last couple of years is quite capable of distinguishing Opera even though it defaults to identifying itself as IE.

- A

You all have to know that Firefox is only growing because of the great amount of hype behind its security. Firefox is a good browser, but it too has security flaws... which are very well documented. Opera on the other had almost no report of security flaws ever... and the only times there was a "breach" was when the user himself happened to be an idiot. Opera isn't gorwsing in popularity, but it sure is going to have a hardcore group of users for eternity.... The thing is, nowadays, Firefox is gaining more users by dragging MSIE in the mud, but for a long time Opera concentrated more on getting a good browser out than beat MS.

W3 Schools has changed to a page view system probably because alot of us Firefox guys go there just to look at their browser stats page...so many that it's slightly skewing the results. I saw somewhere on their site where they were complaining about that... but as was said before, the people who would be interested in building a website are much more likely to have an alternative browser installed than the average joe. W3 Schools is not an accurate source of browser stats, period.