September 4, 2003

new employee

The Mozilla Foundation has hired Ben Goodger! Congratulations Ben.

Posted by asa at 6:40 PM

 

reactions, thoughts, comments, etc.

How about you Asa? Seems like you are THE person to get hired by the Mozilla foundation with all your knowledge and expertise on Mozilla.

Posted by: Shadow3333 | September 5, 2003 1:24 AM

As far as I can work out, Asa is still working for AOL/Netscape till the end of September to sort out the changeover, so the can't yet be hired by the Mozilla Foundation.

Gids

Posted by: Gids | September 5, 2003 2:03 AM

After having read some of Ben's weblogs, I was shocked to see that he appears to be a right-wing extremist that is able only to think in terms of clicéd black & white categories.

That someone like that is participating in an open source project is somewhat odd ... and eery.

Here are some excerps:

> the Left Wing's most popular superstitions - luck. Under most left wing philosophies, no one is more able than anyone else, and so any difference in holdings can be ascribed to luck.
(Ben, most left-wingers I know merely say that there should be MORE BALANCE in the way wealth is distributed, and that MODERATE differences in wealth are GOOD.)

> Decent supermarkets are open 24 hours a day.
(Ben, I guess people who work at supermarkets don't deserve a "family life". A lage portion of our population works in the "service" industry. Let's make even more of them work odd hours. Nice conservative values, yours).

> what is it with the poor? ...checkout is being held up by some poor person trying to cash food stamps. If I ran things there'd be a Poor*Mart that only took food stamps and people with such stamps had to buy everything there.
(Ben, I would hate to bee unemployed in a country run by you. The poor would be treated as shunned secondary citicens.)

Brave New World, this.

Welcome to MozillaFoundation Ben. I hope your contribution here is better than it seems to be for society as a whole.

--
Peter

Posted by: Peter Lairo | September 5, 2003 2:17 AM

Peter -
While I also disagree very much with Ben's political views, I don't entirely see the relevance of them. He is (I assume) employed to work on the Mozilla code, not to express the Mozilla Foundation's politics. Not employing someone based on their political views would be something worse than the various bits you've just quoted.

Maybe the Foundation should employ Chris Nelson as a political counterweight? http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/chris/ :)

Posted by: michaell | September 5, 2003 4:00 AM

Micheal, I NEVER suggested that he should not be employed based on his (extreme right-wing) political views, merely that I thought the fact the HE was participating in open souce was "odd and eery". I also concluded my post with "Welcome to MozillaFoundation Ben."

Posted by: Peter Lairo | September 5, 2003 8:04 AM

{{(Ben, I guess people who work at supermarkets don't deserve a "family life". A lage portion of our population works in the "service" industry. Let's make even more of them work odd hours. Nice conservative values, yours).}}

I've heard people say "I like the pay, but I don't want to have to work night shift." And I always think, well...DON'T. Get a job someplace else if you don't like it. Complaining about unemployment is one thing, but complaining about the *convenience* of work hours? Feh.

[If I ran things there'd be a Poor*Mart that only took food stamps]

The idea of a supermarket with discount priced food that caters to people on subsidies on the surface doesn't seem like a half-bad free-market-niche / capitalistic opportunity. Hmmm...

[ and people with such stamps had to buy everything there.]

Whoops. "had to"? Uh-oh.

{{Welcome to MozillaFoundation Ben. I hope your contribution here is better than it seems to be for society as a whole.}}

That's unfortunate.

Posted by: Marc Rust | September 5, 2003 1:16 PM

I'm tired of all you stupid left-wingers.
I believe in killing of fetuses and enviromental standards and elections and against recalls but am also against food stamps, increasing mininum wage, requiring expensive wind energy.

I do't see anything extreme about Ben's pro-business and common senseness. California, a liberal is almost corrupt. Florida/Texas, conservatives are blooming

Posted by: joe lieberman | September 5, 2003 1:43 PM

Dudes please continue your discussion somewhere else, This is Asa's blog and it's not about Ben's political ideas, you guys are way off-topic.

Again Asa i hope to see you get hired by the foundation after you quit AOL.

Posted by: Shadow3333 | September 5, 2003 1:59 PM

Surprise! ;-)

(Just kidding, of course.)

Glad to see him hired.

Posted by: Robert Morris | September 5, 2003 2:03 PM

Peter, maybe you didn't read the comments on my blog but I noted there that my suggestion of "Poor Mart" was tongue in cheek, my comments largely hypothetical and intended to get a rise out of people, which is something I occasionally enjoy doing. I'm generally against food stamps - they should be provided only when there's a breakdown of trust (e.g. beneficiaries that spend all their money on alcohol and cigarettes while their children go hungry).

That said, I am right wing, but at the same time if I were on the electoral roll here, I don't think I'd be republican.

Posted by: Ben | September 5, 2003 5:57 PM

Ben: "I am right wing, but at the same time if I were on the electoral roll here, I don't think I'd be republican."

Hmm, interesting. Almost the same, just reversed, could be said about me:
"I am left wing, but at the same time if I were on the electoral roll here, I don't think I'd be democrat."

I don't really know *exactly* what you meant, but it sounds right (eh, correct). ;)

Posted by: Peter Lairo | September 6, 2003 11:42 AM

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