Thanks J. Fournier! I'm back on track to making this site somewhat usable in other browsers. It's not perfect yet (and it probably never will be) but it's again readable in IE (win ie 6, at least). Also, I've just tested in Opera 6 and things seem fine there. Communicator doesn't even try so things are fine there. When I get to work I'll give things a look in Konqueror and Mac IE and maybe the random assortmant of other Gecko browsers I've got sitting around. Thanks again J.