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August 16, 2005

pcworld stats

I just read over at PC World that Firefox is greater than 20% of their visitors. Not bad at all :-)

The article suggests that both IE and Firefox are gaining at Opera's expense - at least among PC World readers.

Posted by asa at August 16, 2005 08:19 AM | TrackBack
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70% IE, 20% Firefox, 3.5% Opera, 6.5%...?

It's disappointing to see the Safari and Konqueror browsers in numbers under 5%. Even with the "open standards" push, they are still in low numbers. Probably because Windows is on 95% of desktop computers, and there are no KHTML browsers for Windows. The latest KHTML engine is great...why no browser for Windows, to attract even more users away from IE with yet another safe, standards-compliant browser?

Posted by: MarbleheadMan on August 16, 2005 08:42 AM

what really needs to happen is for big pc vendors like Dell, to start shipping their machines with alternative browsers, like firefox.

Posted by: Todd on August 16, 2005 09:06 AM

Todd:
why dell can't ship with firefox: internal company websites that need IE, many companies lease dell/ibm so this is a no-go since it would just confuse the "average user" having two browsers (OK, my mom calls firefox "the internet" , thunderbird "email" and IE "bad thing" but still...).

MarbleheadMan:
there are... problems... with khtml (not fully suported my sites, eg: gmail), it is not ready for windows users' fancy sites; it needs to focus on getting support first.

Posted by: neil on August 16, 2005 10:39 AM

Umm... I don't know about Konquerer but (KHTML-based) Safari supports GMail as least as well as Opera. The only thing missing is the rich text editor, and this may be supported soon.

Neil

Posted by: Neil Jenkins on August 16, 2005 12:04 PM

Asa,

I would be nice to read your thoughts about the market share slip of Firefox in July. Don't get me wrong, I love Firefox but I will be nice to read your thoughts about the market share slip.

Thanks

Posted by: Evert Tigchelaar jr on August 16, 2005 12:11 PM

That can be answered right here on the site Evert, Asa submitted a blog about 80 millon downloads, where people commented on this, the stats aren't accurate, and aren't the whole web. There's various reasons for a slip in what they've TRACED aswell. But there is undoubtedly no slip, downloads and usage has and is growing by 99% of all stats, always going to be the odd one saying otherwise.

Posted by: Kris Silver on August 16, 2005 04:05 PM

When The Economist reports that level of Firefox penetration then we can be really pleased!

Posted by: Julian on August 17, 2005 11:47 AM

Kris Silver,

I must have missed those comments I gues.

Posted by: Evert Tigchelaar jr on August 17, 2005 02:08 PM

"The article suggests that both IE and Firefox are gaining at Opera's expense - at least among PC World readers."

Huh? Gaining on what? 1-2%? :-p

Posted by: Jug on August 19, 2005 02:01 AM

Ah, OK...

"Opera, saw a small decrease in usage in the same timeframe, going from 3.74 percent to 3.57 percent usage."

So IE and Firefox shared a gain of 0.17% on Opera? Just wow...

Posted by: Jug on August 19, 2005 02:03 AM

Neil and Todd, I'm not sure if it's true for all Dell notebooks or what, but i was configuring my friends brand new right out of the box Dell and was just about to install firefox when I noticed that her notebook had it preinstalled. I was quite surprised.

Posted by: Eric on August 19, 2005 01:42 PM

Asa,

I would be nice to read your thoughts about the market share slip of Firefox in July. Don't get me wrong, I love Firefox but I will be nice to read your thoughts about the market share slip.

Thanks
Posted by: Evert Tigchelaar jr on August 16, 2005 12:11 PM

Like Asa would ever post discouraging news about Firefox. That's not what this blog is about.

Posted by: uncle on August 20, 2005 03:17 PM

Uncle,

That doesn't have to be discouraging news, I just except some fair news and thoughts. Whats wrong if asa would say: "well our market share slipt a bit last month but we are hard working to get the last market share back"?

Posted by: Evert Tigchelaar jr on August 21, 2005 02:48 AM

"Opera, saw a small decrease in usage in the same timeframe, going from 3.74 percent to 3.57 percent usage."

According to alexa.com PC World are seeing a rise in their number of visitors. So that actually indicates *growth* in the number of Opera users, which is all Opera AB probably cares about.

Posted by: Dan on August 22, 2005 07:39 AM

Check this blog entry out from Dvorak Uncencensored:

Firefox Dominates Blog

Posted by: ZenDude on August 23, 2005 03:13 PM

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