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August 09, 2005

linux world expo

I drove up to San Francisco for an afternoon of Linux World Expo. We had a small booth and held a BOF in the evening and those were cool. Overall, I'm not terribly excited about LWE. I guess I'm spoiled on conferences like OSCON where you get to meet interesting people rather than sales droids.

Posted by asa at August 9, 2005 08:56 PM | TrackBack
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There was no Mozilla booth at linux world in toronto this past year. I was there.

Posted by: Beer on August 9, 2005 09:10 PM

cool

Posted by: Daruku on August 9, 2005 11:33 PM

I wish i went, I'd wack you across the face with a brick. I'm sure there is lot's of people that feel the same way, maybe you should stop spreading bullshit about linux. You and the rest of the mozilla morons should stick to your windows and macs.

Posted by: oy on August 10, 2005 09:30 AM

oy, i cannot agree with you. Linux is opensource which mean everybody can give his own ideas for the future of the software, so you should respect everybody and in particular asa who try to help ! I'm using linux and I would love too be able to advice it to all of my friends which are bored of windows but who don't know how to solve a problem, who just want their computer to work and who would be completely lost with linux (to install a software they have downloaded on a website for example). I've read asa's advices and I completely agree with the majority of his ideas, and I repeat that i'm a linux fan! all linux developers should really consider what he said, and linux would make a huge jump in simplicity. However all is not junk in linux ! , and I've seen recently lots of improvements in some distros like mandriva or ubuntu. the idea is not to be only negative about linux, nor to be only positive, but to be constructive, and that's what Asa is trying to do in my view.
excuse my faults : english is not my native language :-)

Posted by: jc1985 on August 10, 2005 11:00 AM

Oy, that is bang out of order, what a ridiculous, negative, pessimistic, irrelevent post. This is a blog of Asa's if your just going moan about him and Mozilla, then why on earth be here you negative horrible, rude person, if your just going to spread hate?

Linux is open to all to distribute, comment on, help, use, and benefit from. Don't dare make out like it's some elite club only you and some others are aloud in, keeping it a certain way, for certain people, snubbing everybody else as if your above everyone and know best. You dont, you dont own Linux, and you sure as hell don't know how to calmly, constructively debate.

Posted by: Kris Silver on August 10, 2005 11:36 AM

Oy, your pityful sence of destruction, absence of meaning, absurd behavior and hateful speeches are absolutely ignorant, untolerable, and unacceptable; it is obvious that you lack of humanity, and have no respect for no one, not even your self! Oy, If you don't like Mozilla or Asa then you can scoot yourself to a more comfortable place that flourishes with nothing but terrorist idiocy among horrible unwelcome people like yourself.

Linux is opensource. Open to new ideas, open to new POV's, open to suggestions open with welcome and open arms

Posted by: KT on August 10, 2005 01:06 PM

Let's not feed the troll guys

Posted by: Mr Lizard on August 10, 2005 04:35 PM

I'm quite surprised that very short post of mines recieved so much attention.

People blog, write articles and what not about about Linux not being ready for the desktop almost every month, this is nothing new and not much different from the other ones.

"Linux doesn't do what windows does there for it sucks"

"Linux looks different from windows there for it sucks"

"Linux makes me read a manual and type in a few simple commands but i'm too lazy there for it sucks"

Same thing all the time. I'm surprised firefox is even available for Linux since most if not all of it's dev team are windows/mac users, no surprise there. My original post was pretty pathetic, but the fact you lot tried to insult me and failed miserably at that, is even more pathetic.

For me windows isn't ready for MY desktop, maybe I should start writting articles about how windows isn't ready for the desktop, no doubt all my comments would be flames, but ack it's a horrible world we live in. ;)

I'm sorry for my original post it was bang out of order, I just kinda snapped when reading these articles as there is a lot of stuff i heavily disagree with. Don't worry I wont post here or even read asa's blog again, i'll leave you to it.

Posted by: oy on August 10, 2005 06:54 PM

Oy is emotionally invested in his OS to such an incredible degree, that it has become his identity. That's one problem. Another is reacting to constructive criticism with narcisistic rage.

Oy: get some fresh air dude.

Posted by: Paul on August 10, 2005 10:12 PM

Look oy, that has not been said here, none of what you just accused. Talking constructively about good and bad points of products, why some use them, why it isnt good/ready for others is sensible, and a high requirement in software.

Neither Windows/Mac or Linux is exempt from criticism. However, you seem to think Linux is, yet Windows isnt. Thats just a strong, rare opinion, and is not helpful. The fact is most people use Windows, its better in some respects, worser in others, and I for one believe it is a much better OS than Windows for many current Windows users. However, that alone doesnt mean the users will come. They have to be earnt, and to be user friendly, you have to be user friendly to the overwhelming majority of your potential future users, whom would be coming from Windows.

No one, especially not Asa has said Linux should be windows, or anything remotely like that, your just being wildly stubborn and dismissive to a sensible debate on constructive idea's and criticisms about Linux. People criticize Firefox all the time, next week Asa might say this is weakness in Thunderbird, or others might say this is a weakness in windows. Are you going to jump down they're throat?

No, just when it's your product you love so much you think its exempt from discussion in remotely cricising ways. Software makes little improvements if it is not scrutinized, many Linux distro's already try to make the change from Windows to Linux as easy as possible to earn and please all users. Nothing wrong with that, Linux isn't an elite, its a OS in many flavours for many people.

Posted by: Kris Silver on August 11, 2005 09:34 AM

"I guess I'm spoiled on conferences like OSCON where you get to meet interesting people rather than sales droids."

sales droids. haha

Posted by: Guest on August 11, 2005 02:16 PM

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