I wanted to remind everyone testing Deer Park Alpha 1 that we need your help in analyzing billions of web pages out there. I simply can't do it by myself ;-)
If you did a custom install and included the Reporter tool, then when ever you hit a website that doesn't look or behave correctly, please go to the Help menu, select the Report Broken Websites, and just follow the instructions in the resulting wizard.
We'll analyze these reports in aggregate and use them to tackle any regressions in Gecko and to help evangelize standards-based solutions to sites using proprietary code.
If you've got Deer Park Alpha 1 and you didn't install the Reporter tool, please reinstall and select the custom option. Thanks.
Again, there are billions of pages out there and I can't check them all myself, so please report any sites you find not working correctly with the new tool. Thanks.
I don't usually bother anyone about this... but this page has a lot of unreadable text when I use a white-on-black default colour scheme.
(Not saying that you're the one at fault - it's a common mistake in my experience :/)
http://www.proofboard.com/en/index.html
This is a problem with the marquee tag yet reported to bugzilla.
Previous versions of Mozilla and FF work fine!
Do you work on the new version firefox 1.0.5 because there is a spoofing problem in firefox 1.04?
Posted by: f1sven on June 7, 2005 02:04 AMI just don't see any non-working pages ... except from ms-update. I've been using Phoenix-Firebird-Firefox for so long now, that I doubt I would notice any sites not appearing "right2.
Posted by: testboy on June 7, 2005 03:53 AMYou can't type anything on blogger.com. will there be a firefox 1.0.5 before firefox 1.1 beta releases?
Posted by: Alex on June 7, 2005 05:08 AMI have got a problem with the reporting tool itself: it wants to send the current page, but what if a page breaks the Deer Park so that I cannot even submit the report?
Anyway, I use the Deer Park Alpha 1 on Windows 2000, and the site http://totalcar.hu breaks for me there: the processor usage skyrockets to 100%, and I cannot really do anything with the browser except closing the tag. Does not appear on any of the pages within the site, neither does it happen with 1.0.4
/r.
Posted by: Robert on June 7, 2005 05:48 AMAny chance of getting a response to this:
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=node/view/15822
Posted by: spreadfirefox on June 7, 2005 05:59 AM@robert: in the case of a crash, talkback should catch it, and file a report that way. If it doesn't, then file a bug the old way (bugzilla). Unfortunately there's nothing I can do to make reporter work in that situation.
Posted by: Robert Accettura on June 7, 2005 06:25 AMAsa, it sounds like you're disappointed by the uptake on the reporter tool. I've spent the last two hours (since reading your post) trying every website I conceivably visit (except for wikipedia, which is down today) and all the sites I maintain. I'd hoped (no, really) to find at least a couple of issues with which to exercise the reporting tool, but there were none to be found. This really doesn't seem at all like alpha software, and low usage of the reporter tool probably reflects DP's quality, not (or not just) tester apathy.
Posted by: Finlay McWalter on June 7, 2005 06:29 AMWebsites have definitely improved during the last 15 month. Many companies take Mozilla support seriously. Only some javascripts won't work now and then - and even that is getting better every day.
Like Finlay, I'm looking for bad websites, but there are none. I only noticed a javascript bug with Deer Park Alpha 1 on www.talkline.de when logged in - the developers called their html form "forms" - and adressed it in the script with "document.forms.variablename.value" instead of "document.forms["forms"]...". I wrote an email. It's just a surprise it worked with FF 1.0.4 !?
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but can the reporter tool xpi be used with FF 1.0.4? And if so, will it mess up the report data, if you're looking for broken sites in Deer Park?
Posted by: Eric Lutz on June 7, 2005 09:17 AMGotta agree with Finlay. I can't remember the last time I couldn't use a site in Firefox (or Deer Park) that wasn't a Microsoft update page.
Posted by: Kelson on June 7, 2005 09:45 AMWill do!!
Be well.....
Mike
Before I read this post, I actually just reported a site.
The one that's currently close to the top on www.guildwars.com
Fun to see a large game developer mention it. :)
Posted by: Jugalator on June 7, 2005 01:48 PMDeerPark crash when you try to open XHTML with SVG inline like http://css.artnau.com/exemples/problema1.xhtml
Posted by: are on June 7, 2005 02:44 PMI evangelized www.thesuperficial.com, which was one of the top 25. I sent them a testcase based on the site that indicated that Firefox trunk is correct and Firefox 1.0 is wrong.
How are people working with reporter data collaborating? Is there a wiki page for people working with reporter data? Should I file a bug in the Tech Evangelism product and attach a testcase so someone like bz can make sure Firefox trunk is in fact correct? Should I send in a new broken-website report saying that I've evangelized them? Should I demand that the reporter tool gain a comments feature? ;)
Posted by: Jesse Ruderman on June 7, 2005 09:51 PMJesse, once we get a significant chunk of data, we'll start working with it similar to talkback. We'll testcase the top listsings and file bugs on us if we're to blame or file bugs on the sites (evangelism) if they're to blame. We don't have enough aggregate data yet to start ranking very well. Hopefully it will grow significantly though. I intend to have this as part of the default install for alpha 2.
- A
Posted by: Asa Dotzler on June 7, 2005 10:01 PMThe reporter tool can't handle CJK chars, or you will get many many many report for Chinese sites.
Will the tool handle CJK chars after 1.1 released?
Posted by: BobChao on June 8, 2005 02:25 AMwww.thesuperficial.com fixed their site based on my evangelism email :)
Posted by: Jesse Ruderman on June 8, 2005 09:12 AMYahoo's Launch music video service still doesn't work for Firefox :(
Posted by: ZephyrXero on June 13, 2005 02:11 PM