May 23, 2005
deer park alpha 1 candidate builds available for testing
We're pretty much there and have a round of builds that are very, very close to what we will ship as Deer Park Alpha 1 (what will eventually ship as Firefox 1.1)
If you'd like to help us test these candidates, please grab one from the links below. Note that for our alpha releases, we know there are feature and polish issues that we haven't completely worked out but we want to get the core code out to our community so they can test out major Gecko and platform changes ASAP.
The Gecko included in this candidate build is about one year of development improved since the Gecko that shipped in Firefox 1.0. We've also made major changes to the extension system. XUL application developers, extension and theme developers, and web developers are the primary audience for the upcoming Alpha.
Oh, one other note, we've also added (thank, Robert) a new feature called "Reporter". This is a wizard for reporting broken websites. You can install this from the custom install and access it from the Help menu. Please report any broken websites you find in this candidate or the actual Alpha build using the new Reporter tool.
These are candidate builds, not the final Deer Park Alpha 1. If these candidates test out well, we'll be shipping Deer Park Alpha 1 real soon. Also note that the naming and the artwork/branding changes are intentional, not bugs.
Posted by asa at May 23, 2005 12:36 PM
Installing it, the FF1.1 RC will overwrite my previous version?
Riccardo > you can also find a zipped version if you're worried about your regular FF 1.0
There really is only one regression remaining with these builds that I think really should be fixed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295095 -- Ctrl+Shift+letter treated as Ctrl+letter
I'll bet a high percentage of your target users for this build use the keyboard quite a bit and this regression breaks a lot of stuff for those type of users.
This is however a RC of a pre alpha... correct?
What about Thunderbird Deer Park Alpha 1 RC's?
Hope css error can be separated from js error. Or, at leaset, css error can be turned it on or off.
I was waiting this moment a long time ago...
PD: "What about Thunderbird Deer Park Alpha 1 RC's?"
I opine the same...
Probably I should search for it in bugzilla, but as I'm not familiar with it just want to confirm do any one now about this problem, which I still see in Deer Park:
If you open a lot of links with CTRL+CLICK and release the CTRL before all the tabs' load starts completely, they will open in the current page not in the background tab.
Just a request... as soon as possible as Deer Park Alpha lands, can the nightlies reenable official branding? The last couple nightlies have been so uninspiring with the generic icons and art. :-(
The file /C:/Program Files/Deer Park Alpha 1/Alpha cannot be found. Please check the location and try again.
Someone messed up with the slashes? :-)
These were issues I encoutered, although I could perfectly live with most of them being unresolved or just pointing out intended behaviour.
- The filename still contains "firefox", although I could see this is a candidate-only issue.
- I was confused a little while reading "Deer Park Alpha 1 1.0+" in the installer (because of the digit in the product name).
- Why isn't the quality feedback agent enabled by default? It seems (at least for an Alpha) a reasonable feature since a variety of existing profiles and exotic configurations will be hit with a milestone.
- On first start-up it doesn't check for extension updates.
- Should "Promote Deer Park" be there in the Help menu?
I now realize this are only polish bugs, but I couldn't find anything really critical.
So far it all works good, but one extension broke. http://minimizetotray.mozdev.org/ gives the following error:
Minimize To Tray - Component Load Error
Cannot find binary component:
Please make sure you have the required DLLs before installing the extension
Also, I had to re-install All-In-One Gestures, but it works now.
wheeee it's fast and the bug i filed yesterday i already fixed. yeah and double yeah!
Great work. I gave up using nightly builds when Feed View extension didn't work nice with them, but it seems that it works great in this release.
I absoluttely understand all that you do to insure users that this is not final release, but I would like to tell that IMHO there would be more users that are enchant with Deer Park alpha than those that don't like it. I think that it is as stable (if not more) as 1.0 releases and it offers greater speed, compatibility and several useful small features.
Print Preview has some serious issues, although they probably shouldn't block an alpha release.
Amazing. Thanks for the SVG support! Y'all rock!
Acrobat Reader won't open in Deer Park. Any suggesitons?
The most obvious bug I can see is the new print preview. It has been mentioned here before, and I'm glad I can no longer break the whole program by pressing F5 in print preview, but there aren't any scroll bars in my print preview window!
Nice to see SVG enabled by default, too. Are there any other new features (besides Reporter, SVG, Fastback, new preferences dialog) that should be noted?
OK, I found another (possible) bug, but it's not too serious.
The new XUL_error_pages work better (they now show the actual URL in the address bar, and the refresh button (rather than the link) works. But can anyone confirm this?
1. Syndicate the Planet Mozilla RSS feed.
2. Click on "MozillaZine: Deer Park Alpha 1 Release Candidate..."
3. There's something wrong with the feed that makes this link direct to "tag:mozillazine.org,2004:article6680," and of course "tag" is not a registered protocol. But instead of trying to reload when clicking the try again button, it brings me back a page. Weird.
I understand that XUL_error_pages is not set to be on by default, but they should work properly (even with noneexistent protocols) nonetheless.
Jesse Ruderman, Thanks. I will vote for that bug.
Imagezoom extension have problem in Deer Park, it is showing a a gray box under status bar with an XML error:
And thanks, finally the CTRL+ALT keypresses are catched in JS.
Sorry, That was:
<!DOCTYPE overlay SYSTEM "chrome://imagezoom/locale/imageZoom.dtd">
(An XML Doctype overlay error, which the tag was removed in previous comment)
Hmm... no luck here at all (W2K SP4). The exe loads but doesn't ever present anything to the screen - quite possibly an extension causing problems.
MarbleheadMan I have the same problem with FF 1.0.4. Subscribing directly to mozillazine served RSS or Atom feeds works well though.
Kenny, that's because MinimizeToTray pokes Firefox in weird ways. Any old copy that worked on Firefox 1.0 will not work on 1.1 (or anything trunk). Once we find someone to compile the extension in VC6, we can have an error message that makes more sense.
Asa: For the next time MoFo decides to do a re-branding like this, would it be possible to just overwrite the official branding files on a mini-branch instead? (Like how SVG worked before it was merged to trunk.) That should 1) not disturb the third-party builders, 2) make restoring the branding extremely easy (just stop using the branch), and 3) actually test out the rebranding stuff to make sure nothing is being left out, so third-parties can excise all mentions of Firefox (as required by the trademark policies) easier.
(No comments on the actual alpha because that's just another nightly to me...)
Everything is fine except I can't get Mozilla Calendar to work. Won't even load.
I love the new alpha only one problem,, my favorite extension for firefox is the greasemonkey script. The extension loads but none of the scripts add properly,, anybody else have this problem??
Deer park disabled all my extensions upon installation, however when I restarted it they all seemed to work. It would not let me set the home page to anything but the google default.
This release automatically un-installed my AdBlock extension...with no prompt...so that kind of sucks. Also, pages don't seem to load as quickly as they did in 1.0.4
Really? to me the pages seem to load MUCH faster then any other firefox build.. noticebly faster as a matter of fact, kinda wierd.
Cannot open html files with 1.1 . This was not true with 1.04 tried to make deer park default program to open html but get a not valid win32 . Cannot add deer park
to the ,choose program to open file, menu. Work around= open html with internet explorer.
I'm sad to see that the latest gecko still has no support for the discretionary hyphen (­ html entity). see this page for an explanation of what it is.
This is one of the few HTML features that is part of the spec that is fully supported by IE yet firefox completely ignores.
Since firefox sells itself as such a standards-compliant browser, I'd like to see this support in 1.1
I found the bugzilla report for this a few days ago, but it seemed as if it was too low priority to bother to fix.
So "Half Moon Bay" is gone? :-P Can it co-exist with Firefox 1.0.4?
so far so good, except for the themes
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050523 Firefox/1.0+
Great. Everyone rememeber, this is a RC of a alpha version, so bugs will be a plenty. :)
"Installing it, the FF1.1 RC will overwrite my previous version?"
How typical this will be the first post many will see and get confused. :-(
It's not FF 1.1 RC.
"This is however a RC of a pre alpha... correct?"
Nope, not that either. It's an RC of alpha 1, just like the title says.
Please be aware that this bug (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286743) kicks in when installing Deer Park in parallel to Firefox: you will loose Real Player scripting functionality. This is not a Deer Park specific bug. Just copy all the stuff from the "RealPlayer/Netscape6" folder to "Deer Park/plugins" to get it working again.
I quickly tested the Mac build yesterday, looks good, but I need to send you a few screenshots of problems. The most obvious being when you right click on a page, the context menu has scrollers top and bottom even though there's no more menu items to scroll.
How do I create a new profile on a Mac...? You can't do "-profilemanager" on a Mac :confused:
Has a Branch been cut yet for the 1.1 release cycle?
Tab X, Tabbrowser Preferences and SessionSaver extensions doesn't work for me with Deer Park on Linux. Also Adblocks works but doesn't show it's button at the bottom of the browser.
How do I create a new profile on a Mac...?
~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles; move the profile folder out and relaunch Fx.
Move or resize existing windows
-> dom.disable_window_move_resize: [false / false / true]
Raise or lower windows
-> dom.disable_window_flip: [false / false / true]
Displace or replace context menus
-> dom.event.contextmenu.enabled: [true / true / false]
Hide the status bar
-> dom.disable_window_open_feature.status: [true / false / true]
Change status bar text
-> dom.disable_window_status_change: [true / false / true]
-> dom.disable_image_src_set: [false / false / false]
When you click on the scroll bar it only scrolls down a little once, rather then scrolling all the way down to your cursor. Also the Page Up, Page Down, Home, and End do not work. The last thing I just found is that when you do a Find on page, you cannot close the find (even when you click on the little "x' in the corner or hit Esc).
Peter, nice extension, but why is the "Advanced" button removed, while the cookie manager is added?
Making it simple is one thing, but this is too simple! Why do I need to install so many extensions to 'fix' Firefox?
Alpha looks great -- very stable. All my extensions appear to work fine except Sage (sage.mozdev). Selecting a feed in Sage now does nothing when it should display the feed's headlines. Works fine in 1.0.4.
Extensions that work for me: Adblock, Create Shortcut, Permit Cookies, BugMeNot, GeoURL, ForecastFox
It is all great. I like SVG ability. Soon SVG may replace all GIF's and PNG's. And graphics will be smaller files that can scale!
I gave it a shot under Windows XP.
I had had 30+ tabs with v1.0.4 and SessionSaver .2 installed.
DeerPark opened 30+ tabs *but* not would load the individual locations :(
Additionally, a look at the extensions indicated several "will be installed when you restart Firefox." After a re-start, this was not so: extensions did not e-install.
Reverting back to 1.0.4, it too opened 30 + tabs BUT none loaded as above. I had to re-locate the sites in 1.0.4, then quit before I could get he tabs to actually re-load.
While I do respect, admire and look forward to what the developers are doing, I've removed Deer Park from my system, and will wait for a more stable release.
Would we bundle the GDI+ library needed by SVG? Except that, everything is working fine here, including extensions. :-)
While I do respect, admire and look forward to what the developers are doing, I've removed Deer Park from my system, and will wait for a more stable release.
Do consider trying a clean profile with new, especially release candidates of alphas, builds.
By the way, are there any plans at all to allow easier migration from 1.0.4 to 1.1 final, or are we going to have a rash of 'FIREFOX IS BROKEN, THIS RELEASE SUCKS!' from casual users (and media outlets) who have no idea what their profile is, much less how to back it up and create a new one?
Brian, we don't branch for alphas and betas.
with a significant speed increase when loading each website, I'm more than pleased with Deer Park Alpha 1. The only problem I encountered was that DPA 1 stopped reacting/loading pages after loading a .pdf file online.
But the benefits of using DPA outweigh the disadvantages compared to 1.0.4 :-)
You guys just did a great job, the preferences dialog is sweet too.
It's great to see this build getting tagged. I've been using the nightlies for quite some time. I can't wait until SVG is implemented in the beta. I hope that the roadmap dates are maintained! ;-)
The only real trouble I've noted is problems with Greasemonkey in the Deer Park Alpha. I've been using the Book Burro script as my reference script for Ajax. I can't wait until I can do this on the Deer Park branch as well. Until then, it's back to 1.0.4 (w/o SVG).
Scrolling the extensions window with the arrow pad still doesn't work quite right. If you have more than 4 extensions (I have 11) the selection quickly moves off screen. The list still scrolls, but not nearly at the speed that the extensions change selection.
Sorry that its a bit wordy, but it strange to explain.
Runs fine on Mac OS X.4 so far :) Way faster than 1.0.x and solved some strange problems I had with 1.0.4. Good work!
It appears that mycroft download page is not displaying correctly:
I submitted a report: http://reporter.mozilla.org/app/report/?report_id=RMO11169754010308
So it appears that things are working correclty (with respect to the reporting tool), but not with respect to the display of the mycroft download page.
Also, most of my installed extensions worked (but I had to restart after the first time Deer Park loaded). At least one of of my extensions was removed (ContextSearch 0.2).
I have enabled the browser.sessionhistory.max_viewers=5 and that seems to be working fine. So I'm pretty happy with this build so far.
Already here? I would try it out but I kind of like using firefox 1.0.4 at the moment any chance of using both 1.1 and 1.0.4 at the same time without any problems?
"final Deer Park Alpha 1"? Umm I must of missed out on something...
Why did you disabled clicking on yellow bar, when popup blocked?
I had a rather odd error when installing Deer Park Alpha. I chose the custom install and had checked off 2 of the 3 choices available, Website Reporter & Quality Feedback Agent.
It told me that it couldn't install the Website Reporter because it didn't have it. I was rather amused by that. The installer window couldn't close on it's own after it said that but was easily closed by me.
I never had a problem either installing the extensions that I normally use. I thought I'd try "HashColouredTabs" but it locked up when trying to access the options of the extension after the install.
Thank God for the uninstall button on the outside of the extension window because every time I tried anything else within the window it locked up. It didn't lock the computer up but just the extension window itself.
Since you've already given it another name anyway :-), please consider releasing pre-release builds with a different build-filename & profiles dir name so that it is possible to run them along side of a release-build. Thank-you.
I thought the point of the Deer Park release was to permit extension and theme developers to create extensions and themes compatable with the changes going into Firefox 1.1. If that is the case, then shoudln't app.extensions.version be bumped to 1.1 for Deer Park?
Do not expect anyting other a version number bump, and it is very rare.
What are the new features in FF1.1? Where can I find a list of its new features?
I wondering if you ever considered making the the cache able to be stored on other local hard drives or network drives. I'm just guessing that it stores them on the same drive that firefox is installed on but i wish i could select a drive to store the cache on, because of very different hard drive capacitys. Maybe there is an extension already out for this
I'm not a developer, just a heavy user on some obsolete computers. I was an early user of Firefox but after I had to reinstall Windows on this thing, the regular releases crashed on launch until I downloaded the last nightly builds before 1.0.4 was released. I'll generally run up to five tabs or 3 tabs and 2 windows. I'll visit sites like Hotmail, Groklaw, Yahoo Mail and groups and the Wikipedia, usually running two at once.
The only thing I'm not satisfied with is the save as text option saving everything as a web page. I'm really tired of cut and paste to my text editor when I just want to save the text in a file, or running a log file in putty and forwarding everything over to my Unix account. I suppose if I can get the modem in my Linux box working I'll have an easier time with it.
Right now, I'm on yesterday's build (which I went on after the official 1.0.4 release crashed on exit for me, and yes I sent a bug report). I've done hotmail and Google News in different tabs and some crazy german website in a different window this morning. At one point I went from Google News to Groklaw, also relatively memory intensive, and back to Google News. Right now, I'm posting this while running Yahoo mail and downloading some large files. So far ther has been no sign of trouble. I hope this is helpful.
This sucks. I downloaded this and obeyed the instructions here: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/chase/archives/008085.html for adding the fast back and forward. Except that I made it string instead of integer. Now I can't remove that entry, or add an integer entry for it instead, because of the already present version. The only way to get around it is the make a new profile. How rediculous is that?
Anyone know a work around?
Anyone know a work around?
Find your prefs.js file in your profile, and remove the appropriate line from it.
Deer Park have tested successfully! Nice work!
Where are the release builds of Deer Park Alpha 1.
I'm lovin' it..........thank you!!
It'd be really awesome if source tarballs could be posted with the binaries, to give those of us on other platforms a chance to test too - I have powerpc and amd64 linux here only.
That's all have to say about it.... Noticeably faster that any other Firefox I've installed on my Mac.
when i have installed the tabextensions the fine automatic sanitize-funktion doesn't work. When i start it by Tools it works.
Linux, deer park 2005-05-27
Sorry, but my deer park version is of course 2005-05-26!
works well(20050525) except :
I had to reinstall adblock which had disappear
after reinstalling the adblock preferences were still here (so good)
Tabbrowser was working well
I just tried to desinstall tabbrowser and use tabmix 0.2.1 instead
it completely broke the browser
my bookmak personnal toolbar was empty (bookmarks were still here when I use manage bookmarks)
all the navigation buttons were disabled
after desinstalling tabmix, everything works again
I guess one parameter set by tabmix breaks something...
I installed Deer Park and at first run it worked fine, but when I opened it again later, I got "---------------------^" under my status bar. I cannot get rid of it. Any suggestions? Firefox 1.0.4 seems to still work fine.
Arg, new attempt to post the error. It didn't show up in my last post...
! Doctype overlay SYSTEM "chrome://flipper/locale/flipperOverlay.ent "> ------------^.
Deer Park Alpha 1 is quite nice. I do have the following issues though with the linux version:
1. File -> Open won't open
2. Save or Downloading doesn't seem to work.
3. I can not install themes or extentions.
4. GTK2+XFT breaks the compiler from CVS. I have to run GTK without FreeType (broken as well).
5. Help menu option does not show up. A blank box is in its place.
Overall, I am quite pleased with Deer Park.
I don't seem to be able to add new search engines to the top right pulldown and all my old search engines (apart from the ones that were there by default) have disappeared. Anyone else had this prob?
p.s. very pleased with the page rendering improvements eg for www.gamespot.com etc.