Firefox takes another victory at C|Net's six Web browser comparison. Firefox's rating of 8 puts it ahead of the 7.7 for both Netscape 8 and Safari RSS. There's a three-way tie for last place (with a 7 rating) between IE 6 (SP2 version,) Deepnet Explorer, and Opera 8.
I hear we're also gonna see Firefox on the cover of PC Magazine as the browser of choice. Nice!
(and on an unrelated but cool note, all you Tiger users out there can get a nifty Firefox downloads counter dashboard widget and follow along as we take the world by storm :-)
Posted by asa at May 20, 2005 07:40 PM"Congrats!!" ..Since Opera got the same as IE, are we really supposed to take this "review" seriously? O_o
NOBODY can say, even with the price or the ads, that Opera is as bad as IE. This comparison is ridiculous, at least based on the numerical ratings.
Posted by: Nunya on May 20, 2005 08:38 PMThe article really sucks.
What is a Deepnet explorer? Is it a real browser or just another wrapper for IE engine with built-in P2P warez downloader. Why not review Avant or Maxthon then?
The article says nothing about webstandards support of the browsers and all the features (mail, chat, extensions - not plug-ins and so on) they have.
Very weak review.
And Asa is praising this crappy so-called review for just one thing - it puts FF in the first place. How childish.
I thought mozilla developers were more mature.
Oh give it a rest will you!
Posted by: David Naylor on May 21, 2005 01:21 AMOk ;)
Let's have rest together. It is a weekend.
A good joke of the day! ;-)
Posted by: minghong on May 21, 2005 02:13 AMI know the error was in the original article, but given all the problems with people mis-naming Firefox, you should at least do your part to get names right and not repeat the error (especially since Hyatt clarified things nearly a year ago) :-)
Posted by: Smokey Ardisson on May 21, 2005 05:26 AMNetscape 8 takes the best of both worlds. It runs both IE and Mozilla's search engines, should sites you want to visit render properly only with IE.
Gosh - search engines for rendering!!!
How lame this article is!!!
No, I do not trust C|Net anymore.
Their professionalism really stinks.
And Asa is praising this crappy so-called review for just one thing - it puts FF in the first place.
And your point is?
I'll guarantee you if they'd put Opera in first place a link or quote would have shown up on Opera's site, if IE had made it someone at Microsoft would have linked to it, etc.
That's what people do with positive reviews, whether the reviews have any merit or not.
Posted by: Kelson on May 21, 2005 03:05 PMI mean, is Asa's referring to this "reivew" not a sure sign of his love of flamebaiting?! Sure it's his blog, but it's still flamebaiting! He didn't just post how Firefox got first, no no.. That would have been too neutral! He goes out of his way to point out that Opera was (ludicrously) tied with IE (worst browser ever) and Deepnet (WTF?!)..
Does he not see that the review is biased, or at least uninformed? If so, why does he even post about it, other than to create tension? Does he honestly believe HIMSELF that Opera is on the same level as IE? If not, why does he not clarify that? He goes so far as to point out the other browser's rankings in the reivew, being tied with IE and Deepnet (shit browsers), so don't tell me "the post was about FIREFOX, not OPERA!"
If all of you FF users out there are so tired of Opera users standing up for Opera on this blog, why don't you open your mouths about this? Why are you all so silent now? Shadowy Opera insults like this are the cause of these debates that you supposedly despise so much, and you all know it as much as I do. Asa is not stupid, he reads the comments here, and he knows what reaction he will get from Opera fans when he posts this nonsense. So if he ISN'T out to create the very responses you see here so often, would he not take the time to write one more bit and clarify some of these questionable posts? If he sees how upset and annoyed the FF fanbase that participate here become when Opera users flock to defend their favorite browser (and if he cared), shouldn't he attempt to clarify these things, for YOUR sake?
"If all of you FF users out there are so tired of Opera users standing up for Opera on this blog, why don't you open your mouths about this?"
Because we don't want to feed trolls.
Posted by: amostafa on May 21, 2005 05:22 PMYou mean like Asa does? :)
Posted by: Nunya on May 21, 2005 05:34 PMOpera point of view: http://operawatch.blogspot.com/2005/05/cnet-reviews-opera-8-among-six.html
Posted by: Josh on May 21, 2005 07:03 PMAnd yet more viewpoints from Opera people
Posted by: treego14 on May 21, 2005 08:53 PMlol, looks like more opera users commented than ff.
don't get me wrong, i'm an opera user myself, but i'm tired of gettin angry evry time a biased review of opera is published. i already love opera, nothing is going to change it. if people never get around to using opera, it's their loss not mine.
Posted by: evane on May 22, 2005 03:02 AMI've been using Firefox (then Firebird) as my default browser since 0.8 and it has done wonders for my productivity.
Having said that I really don't see the point of blogging about something as lousy as this "review" is. CNET is getting worse and worse and spreding their lousiness doesn't really serve any purpose...or am I mistaken?
IMO, you are not mistaken at all. You are exactly right.
Posted by: Nunya on May 22, 2005 01:40 PMThe review is very fair for Firefox and Safari, but definately something fishy with scoring Opera and IE the same. I'm sorry, but IE is an outdated joke. Just because it has a huge market share, doesn't mean it deserves a decent score.
Posted by: vcv on May 23, 2005 12:10 PM