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December 28, 2004

more stats

This time, from W3Schools. I'm sure many of you have glanced over the visitor stats over at W3Schools, a Web development site. Of course, this is likely to have a higher than normal percentage of Firefox users, if for no other reason than Web developers testing or looking up solutions for multiple browsers. Still, that's a very valuable group of users. If you're a Web developer and you're using Firefox, then you're probably developing sites that work with Firefox (though, of course, I can imagine exceptions to that).

So, it's probably not news to you that Mozilla visitors (a majority of which are likely to be Firefox users) are sitting at a nice 21.2%. Toss in the Netscape 7 users (another Gecko-based browser) and W3Schools gets 22.4% of its visits from Gecko browsers. Again, this isn't really news, the number has been public for a while.

What I do find interesting, though, is the relationship between the growing Mozilla percentage and the thinning ranks of IE users. I've thrown together this little table of the changes over the last year to highlight what's going on.

+--------+--------+--------+--------+
|   IE   | change | Gecko  | change |
|--------+--------+--------+--------|
| 71.70% | -1.80% | 22.40% | +1.90% |
| 73.50% | -1.70% | 20.50% | +1.70% |
| 75.20% | -0.60% | 18.80% | +0.60% |
| 75.80% | -1.50% | 18.20% | +1.30% |
| 77.30% | -1.40% | 16.90% | +1.70% |
| 78.70% | -2.00% | 15.20% | +2.00% |
| 80.70% | -1.10% | 13.20% | +0.80% |
| 81.80% | -0.70% | 12.40% | +0.70% |
| 82.50% | -0.30% | 11.70% | +0.70% |
| 82.80% | -0.20% | 11.00% | +0.50% |
| 83.00% | -1.10% | 10.50% | +0.80% |
| 84.10% |        |  9.70% |        |
+--------+--------+--------+--------+

As you can see, Mozilla's growth this last year is coming pretty much directly from IE. Opera has held steady the full year at 2.1% while older Netscape versions have lost half a point.

Also interesting (to me, at least) is how closely these numbers match up with my weblog reader breakdown from yesterday.

It's pretty clear that we've made some very strong gains with "web savvy" types this year. We're getting early adopters and content creators at a fairly swift pace. I guess that's pretty obvious, but it's nice to see some damn lies and statistics that support it. Posted by asa at December 28, 2004 07:18 AM

Comments

Out of curiousity I graphed 2004:
http://robert.accettura.com/img/20041228w3schools2004.gif

Posted by: Robert Accettura on December 28, 2004 08:40 AM

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/ (stats for december at http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004/December/browser.php )

Posted by: Lauritz Jensen on December 28, 2004 09:16 AM

Right, we should get more "content providers"/"web developers" to use Firefox. By designing/redesigning more webpage that is Firefox-friendly, more regular users would switch to Firefox so as to get a better browsing experience. ;-)

P.S. Tabular data should be marked up using the <table> element (with corresponing <thead>, <tbody> and probably <tfoot>), right?

Posted by: minghong on December 28, 2004 10:05 AM

minghong, yes, tabular data probably should be marked up as a table but for weblog psots I like plaintext better :-) If it was some kind of formal document then I'd probably do the work to put it into a table. This is just a simple blog post though :-)

--Asa

Posted by: Asa Dotzler on December 28, 2004 10:34 AM

Now you need to get into Corporations.

Posted by: Ludovic Hirlimann on December 28, 2004 11:23 AM

I wonder what is on all these brand new PCs that people got for christmas. I hope it's Firefox, or these Windows boxes are going to be owned by the spam gangs before the year is over. Did the Mozilla foundation get some OEMs to preinstall Firefox? I saw some discussion about this, but I do not recall the outcome.

As Ludovic Hirlimann stated correctly, Firefox now must get into corporations. Universities, public libraries and governmental offices would not be bad, either.

I see from the last posting to bug #231062 that an MSI file appears to be ready. This looks good.

Posted by: Adaxl on December 28, 2004 12:51 PM

I pulled the stats from http://www.thecounter.com/stats/ and made a chart:
http://www.serveren.dk/images/browser.gif

In december 2004 there are quite a lot of unknowns, of wich some might be firefox since I summed the nameless (that I suspect is firefox) and the "unknown".

Note that the numbers for July 2001 through September 2001 and May 2003 through December 2003 are identical, which suggest errors in the data. Also, the small sample sizes, and the resulting skewed data, for August 2000 and April 2001 are problably due to errors. In January 2003 it seems MSIE 6 is counted as Unknown.

Posted by: Anders on December 30, 2004 01:34 AM

The January numbers are up now. IE looses another 0.8% which looks like it has gone straight to the Mozilla group who pick up 0.8%. They finally break Firefox numbers out so you can see what Mozilla platform is being used.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Posted by: Redvine on January 11, 2005 04:13 PM

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