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November 10, 2004

1,000,000+ downloads on day 1

With partial data in, I'm excited to announce that we're estimating that we broke 1 million Firefox 1.0 downloads on day 1 of the release. What an amazing day! Keep spreading the word.

Posted by asa at November 10, 2004 07:48 AM
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Just curious, how the number differs from the new-default-homepage hits in the same time frame? I mean, how many FF1.0 users did visited default homepage on the day D? Some downloads occured on mirrors and local groups websites. However, not everyone left the default homepage unchanged.

tom

Posted by: funtomas on November 10, 2004 08:05 AM

CNET Download.com reports 950k downloads for Firefox 1.0 last time I checked, might be worth adding these figures in. It's not from an official site, but a huge amount of downloads.

Posted by: Cow on November 10, 2004 08:50 AM

download.com sometimes counts previous downloads of the same product, like say rc1.

Posted by: Doron on November 10, 2004 09:26 AM

And how exactly do you count Bittorrent downloads? mozilla.org and all affiliate sites like mozillazine were constantly unreachable yesterday, so I guess a lot of people used the torrents, which were fast as hell :-)

Posted by: André on November 10, 2004 09:28 AM

funtomas: The download count includes official mirrors. That's why it takes so long for Asa to get this number -- he has to manually get download counts from a bunch of different sources. Unofficial mirrors are more difficult to get counts for.

André: Someone on IRC said that the BitTorrent tracker reported only something like 11k downloads. Since there were lots of hit-able mirrors, and the file was pretty small, BitTorrent wasn't very widely used.

Posted by: Logan on November 10, 2004 09:50 AM

Don't know when they update it but Download.com is only showing about 33,000 downloads of Firefox if you click the "Last Week" option at http://www.download.com/sort/3150-2356_4-0-1-5.html

Posted by: KevinFreitas on November 10, 2004 09:55 AM

But you can't simply add this to the 8 million-odd downloads during the RC phase, since likely a lot of people downloaded the release that already downloaded RC1/2.

If anything, if this number doesn't catch up to the RC download figures, it's an indication that people are still running an old version (or not longer using it and thuse didn't need the upgrade).

Posted by: Joost Schuur on November 10, 2004 10:34 AM

Currently 11,749 downloads via Torrents. http://bittorrent.mozilla.org:6969/
Might not seem like a lot compared to other numbers but the torrents saved the server 62.4GiB of traffic.

Posted by: Kurt on November 10, 2004 10:35 AM

..
Someone on IRC said that the BitTorrent tracker reported only something like 11k downloads. Since there were lots of hit-able mirrors, and the file was pretty small, BitTorrent wasn't very widely used.
..

I guess BitTorrent would have been used more widely if there had been a link to it on the official website, not just a torrent in the FTP directory.
Anyway, there are still 451 seeds on the windows-installer, so i'd say distibution through BitTorrent was a success.

Albert

ps:
vegas.mozilla.org:6969

Posted by: Albert Feller on November 10, 2004 11:23 AM

I downloaded off of FTP at work but when I got home I tried it from the bit torrents listed on slashdot. That is the first time that I've downloaded 5mb in something like 10 seconds. I was getting a solid 500kb/s and the progress bar looked so cool just popping in sections.

Posted by: Neil Marshall on November 10, 2004 11:44 AM

The problem when your site becomes popular: spam...
And I hate to say that the spam is (again) come from mainland China, my motherland...
Well... I'm not "techically" a chinese as I live in Hong Kong...

Posted by: minghong on November 10, 2004 11:57 AM

1 000 000 in 24 hours ?

Wow :)

Posted by: FredB on November 10, 2004 12:36 PM

I can imagine that the download figures would be amazing. Where I live, in Austria (Europe), the launch of Mozilla Firefox 1.0 made the tech headlines even in conservative mainstream papers. Talk about positive PR!

I personally downloaded twice (for myself and my dad), and I hope to move a few more people to The Fox before the week is over.

@ minghong - Just to satisfy my perverse curiosity: What are these spammer trying to sell?

Posted by: leg1 on November 10, 2004 12:48 PM

I am curious. Is there any way to break the number of downloads down by OS. I would love to see what percentage of the 1,000,000 downloads are from Macs.

Posted by: jims on November 10, 2004 03:44 PM

jims, it's about 8.5% for Mac after the first day. That's a little bit higher than usual for Mac. Linux is just under 7% and the rest is Windows.

--Asa

Posted by: Asa Dotzler on November 10, 2004 04:13 PM

Well, these numbers can't be exact. I downloaded it (from the build ftp dir) at the office, put it on our file sharing server and a lot of people installed it from there or put it on their USB mem sticks to install it at home, since the mozilla server were so slow.

Posted by: pl on November 10, 2004 04:26 PM

85,000 isn't bad for the first day. You say it is a little higher than usual for Mac. What is the usual percentage?

I am curious, because all too often, on the Mozillazine forums I hear about how there is hardly anyone using Firefox or Thunderbird on Macs. Yet, it looks to me like some pretty good numbers.

Posted by: jims on November 10, 2004 04:49 PM

Well when i checked yesterday download.com already had close to 1mil fx downloads

Posted by: George Deka on November 10, 2004 08:42 PM

i updated mine from RC2. Do you think it counts? I know alot of people who do that too.

Posted by: loopy on November 10, 2004 08:44 PM

leg1, sorry that I didn't pay attention to these spam. Not something meaningful anyway. Also those links are not so related. :-P

Posted by: minghong on November 10, 2004 09:31 PM

Asa :

I hope you (all of moz.org & Co top brass) have this page bookmarked AND actually read it on a regular basis, AND make sure you keep an open mind while you're at it. Some of those people may happen to be clueless, some of them may happen to be rednecks and what not, but those are the REAL users out there in the wild. Not Fx groupies, not regulars of moz mailing lists or MozillaZine, but regular users. And some of those comments happen to be spot on, IMO at least, so even if Steve Ballmer personally submitted each and every single one of them they still have merit, again - IMO at least. THAT'S your real feedback. I just hope you'll put it to good use...

Posted by: Linuxn00b on November 11, 2004 03:35 AM

Linuxn00b:
While I agree one has to listen also to such independent places for feedback, you should take into account what can be read between the lines there:
Only looking at the first ten negative reviews it is apparent that most of the reviewers don't recommend IE over Firefox, but rather an extended IE clone like Maxthon, Slimbrowser, Avant, or just Opera.

So those are people who have already picked their alternative browser (even if it has the IE engine). We all know how difficult it is to make an user of a browsing alternative switch to a different browser.
THOSE have picked their browser for a reason, those are not the average "What is a browser? I click on the blue 'e' to start the Internet!" people.

Posted by: aku on November 11, 2004 05:29 AM

Firefox on wired:

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,65668,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2

Posted by: M1th on November 11, 2004 08:32 AM

WOO HOO! 2,084,058 downloads in two days! Amazing

Posted by: Kurt on November 11, 2004 12:05 PM

Managed to convert my Dad to the Fox and Thunderbird and have downloaded 1.0PR and 1.0 over a period of a week. He loves it.

Posted by: Iain on November 11, 2004 12:15 PM

i downloaded mozilla firefox 1.0 release on the d-day and it is very fast site as usual
and i downloaded firefox in 25 minutes with my 56k modem and i have idea of putting advertisements on important tv channels like bbc world cnn and fox news etc to promote the world 's best browser through various media of communication

Posted by: gvsrinivasan on November 11, 2004 06:19 PM

aku :

> While I agree one has to listen also to such independent places
> for feedback, you should take into account what can be read between
> the lines there: Only looking at the first ten negative reviews it
> is apparent that most of the reviewers don't recommend IE over
> Firefox, but rather an extended IE clone like Maxthon, Slimbrowser,
> Avant, or just Opera.
EVEN IF most of them were indeed alternative browser users... So... uh... what? If a guy complains about something backwards in Fx, even if he's a bloody Lynx user, as long as whatever he complained about is indeed butt-first in Fx that means that someone out there noticed. AND bothered to complain. AND offered a better alternative (whatever browser he believes is less screwed up at the moment).

BTW, is the only browser that Fx is destined to best is a four years old IE 6?!? :\

> So those are people who have already picked their alternative
> browser (even if it has the IE engine). We all know how difficult
> it is to make an user of a browsing alternative switch to a
> different browser.
Frankly, I would have thought that it's MORE DIFFICULT to convert "What-is-a-browser?" crowd. At the very least because you'd FIRST have to grab their attention to begin with (no small feat, BTW!), THEN explain what browser actually is, THEN to explain that there are things they're missing out with their IE6, that there are actually more things that can be done on line about which they've never heard...

Someone who already switched (and stayed with the alternative), on the other hand... Well, the person KNOWS there's more to internet than the blue "e". He knows that there's some cool stuff out there. He's knowledgeable enough to have performed a switch once (ergo, is knowledgeable enough to switch twice, IF the new alternative is no more difficult to switch to than the current one he's using). Now all you have to do is backup the wild PR hype (with NYT ads and whatever other stunts) with some beef. IF you have any...

As a side note, pretty much every person I know that uses browsers other than bare IE due to his own free will (as opposed to strongly enforced company policy) went through at least one or more alternatives before settling on whatever s/he's using now. Opera, MyIE2, Avant, the usual suspects.

> THOSE have picked their browser for a reason, those are not
> the average "What is a browser? I click on the blue 'e' to start
> the Internet!" people.
"What-is-a-browser?" types are indeed less likely to hang around C|Net's Download.com. They're also not very likely to hang around moz.org, UMO, slashdot, Neowin, Kuro5hin, etc. So? Suppose moz.org burn through all the money donated to them on full-page ads in mainstream non-computer-related press. Suppose they manage to make 50 million "What-is-a-browser?" people aware to what browser is and what goodies one can get by ditching the blue "e" and switching to an alternative. What is to prevent those new converts from discovering OTHER alternatives? And once they do, what is to prevent them from complaining about the very same things that you already read on that page? A problem remains a problem remains a problem. A bug remains a bug remains a bug.

The feedback is there already, and there'll be much more, there and in other places. And, mind you, one hell of a better feedback than you might have ever bumped into in bugzilla or on MozZine forums, better because it's REAL feedback from REGULAR people, not Fx zealots cheering one another. Now all you need is to read it and draw conclusions. Preferably the right ones this time around, as this is already kind of too late : Fx 1.0 is finally/prematurely (take your pick) out in the midst of a hype storm, and as they say "fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me"...

Posted by: Linuxn00b on November 12, 2004 11:30 PM

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