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August 27, 2004

firefox slowdown with XP SP2

I've seen complaints from several Firefox users that pageload speed has dramatically decreased since installing SP2. Can any of you confirm this? I don't see it on my machine, but maybe I've got just the right system config to not see it. If you are seeing this kind of problem, please let me know in the comments and please, also, provide some basic details about your system and Firefox version, etc. Thanks.

Posted by asa at August 27, 2004 09:53 AM
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I am totally guessing, but maybe SP2 resets RWIN or some other networking settings back to the defaults. It could be that all the people noticing slowdowns had previously tweaked those settings.

Or it could be something totally different.

Posted by: Greg on August 27, 2004 11:18 AM

I've noticed a _system_ slowdown, not just a firefox slowdown.

Not surprising though, 250+ MB of bloatware should do just that.

Posted by: vfwlkr on August 27, 2004 11:25 AM

I have noticed a 300% slowdown when opining links in new pages and during this process firefox is freezed, this is for about 2-3 secconds (but every time I open new tab)

Posted by: Georgi on August 27, 2004 11:29 AM

No noticable slowdowns here. SP2 has been running rock solid.

Posted by: rotator on August 27, 2004 12:17 PM

XPSP2 turns its firewall on by default so people may be running two firewalls. That is another layer for network travel to go through and may slow things down.

Posted by: Brant Gurganus on August 27, 2004 12:18 PM

Hi Asa!

I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a P4 3GHz/1024Mb. I haven't noticed any slowdown at all.

(This is the 0.9.3 milestone. No firewall, only a router.)

Posted by: Kjell on August 27, 2004 12:46 PM

I'm using XP SP2. I see a slight difference in rendering speed. Also the memory consumption for firefox (08/27 branch build) after 1-2 hrs is 110 MB. I don't know if firefox is leaking, but taking so many MBs is not good for future generation browser.

Posted by: arunsub on August 27, 2004 01:25 PM

I`m not seeing any difference at all. But one other thing I´m wondering: WXP now labels downloads with the Securtity Zone it comes from. So WXP ask if it`s allright to run a file from the internet. Should we support this in any way. (Donno if this hab been discussed allready, I didn`t have the time to follow development in discussion in detail in the last 2 or 3 month.

Posted by: jm.one on August 27, 2004 01:46 PM

Well, SP2 WONT install on my computer, so I guess in a way its a good thing. I want to use a fast firefox and a fast computer.

Posted by: Jeff on August 27, 2004 02:53 PM

I can't even get SP2 to install. Stupid thing.

Posted by: hemebond on August 27, 2004 03:07 PM

It might be the bug where it was ignoring the max connections per server preference. I noticed a dramatic speed increase after that was fixed in my nightly CVS builds. I think it can be worked around by increasing the values in greprefs/all.js.

Might have been this bug.

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252118

Posted by: Programmerman on August 27, 2004 03:37 PM

Seems fast enough to me, but I've *just* come from a 450MHz PII to a 3.06GHz P4, so I'm probably not the best lab rat here. ;-)

Posted by: Jeff Walden on August 27, 2004 09:36 PM

There has been a change in the TCPstack since SP2, the changes affects how many simultanously connection one can make and stuff so maybe there will be slower page loads on sites with loads of images or something (guessing out in the wild!)

Posted by: brother on August 28, 2004 06:51 AM

> I have noticed a 300% slowdown when opining links in new pages and during this process firefox is freezed, this is for about 2-3 secconds (but every time I open new tab)

Same here. I have the exat same problem.

Posted by: M1th on August 28, 2004 03:25 PM

I have been running all thre Mozilla products under SP2 - all through the betatests, with the RC-releases and with the release-version without any problems. No slowdowns, no problem to connect and no problems in running any of the software.

Posted by: Dunderklumpen on August 29, 2004 10:40 AM

"Not surprising though, 250+ MB of bloatware should do just that."

Hehe

So you're assuming all files in the SP2 package are new files that are added to the OS?
It might come as shocking to you then, that most of these files replace older versions.

Posted by: Jugalator on August 29, 2004 11:21 PM

"Well, SP2 WONT install on my computer, so I guess in a way its a good thing. I want to use a fast firefox and a fast computer."

This will also do wonderst to your OS safety. No, firewalls, antivirus tools and Firefox don't help against everything if the OS itself has holes. You're actually talking like people who skip antivirus tools to run "faster" and ending up acting as spam zombies etc.

Posted by: Jugalator on August 29, 2004 11:23 PM

"I have noticed a 300% slowdown when opining links in new pages and during this process firefox is freezed, this is for about 2-3 secconds (but every time I open new tab)"

I too am noticing this. It's irritating.

Posted by: arunsub on August 30, 2004 08:15 AM

No slowdowns noticeable, but I've only been running Firefox again for a few weeks longer than SP2. I've also noticed 100+ MB memory usage (recent branch builds) after several hours.

Posted by: Joost Schuur on September 1, 2004 01:15 AM

The SP2 TCP/IP stack limits programs to only 10 half-open connections, the rest are queued and the queue is processed at a rate of 10 a seconed (I think it's 10 a seconed, I'm not sure)

I guess it was to stop zombied machines from launching DDoS attacks.

well...

I have a message for MIcrosoft,

This is an exercise in futility:P

An unofficial patch for this 'fetaure' is avaliable here,

http://www.lvllord.de/

Have fun:D

Posted by: Goldengamegod on September 1, 2004 02:32 AM

Well, we've just had XP installed at uni, together with SP2, and Firefox starts up _extremely_ slow. No noticable freezes for opening in new windows thought, or tabs.

Posted by: David Naylor on September 1, 2004 03:20 AM

FireFox takes a few minutes to start up, after I installed SP2. Page loading seems fine though.

Posted by: Gopi on September 3, 2004 07:15 AM

try this info to solve the surf speed issue

WinXP Post-SP2 TCP-IP Connection Speed Tweak

http://www.winxpcentral.com/windowsxp/xpsp2speed.php

story provides links to MSFT's KB884020, and patcher download (v 2.11a) http://www.lvllord.de/?url=tools#4226patch/ for > ,,,

patch is supposed to counter the slowdown experienced when cruising the internet or downloading files, after SP2 installed

as story stays ,,, "if you're comfortable with how SP2 is working then don't mess with this. This is strictly for those who must have most of their speed back."

Posted by: mike on September 4, 2004 12:11 AM

Just to address the incrementing mem usage of Ff, I'm still running XP SP1 and for some time now I've noticed that if I leave it open for a while, its mem usage gets pretty high. Like I'll leave it open all day and, right now when I check on it, the mem usage is at 118 MB, peak 209 MB, and VM size is 270 MB. And it'll stay like that even if I have just one tab open for gmail. So at least for retardedly high mem usage, I don't think the issue is exclusive to SP2.

Posted by: Dominic on September 5, 2004 06:48 PM

I have the 'hanging for a few seconds' just after you click a link problem. It doesn't max out the CPU of anything, just stops responding completely. Then a few seconds later everything is fine.

I may try the tcp patch...not sure yet ;)

- Grug

Posted by: Grugnog on September 7, 2004 02:35 PM

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