------- Additional Comment #519 From Micky Mouse 2004-08-25 15:10 PDT [reply] -------Wow. It doesn't get much worse than hitler and cancer, does it. Posted by asa at August 25, 2004 04:50 PMAsa you are a cancer inside Mozilla project.
This is why good programmers keep away from Mozilla develop.
Because you are like Hitler.
Please kick Asa from Mozilla and other spammer like "us".
Wow. I cant think of any post that could be more brainless.
Obviously he has not even a remote knowledge of history, comparing a million-people-killer with anything at all. Hitler was worse than a whole army of Osama's alltogether.
So simply ignore him and continue your good work on mozilla.
Well, at least your grammar is better than his/hers. You've got that going for you. ;-)
Posted by: PeterD. on August 25, 2004 05:45 PMPeople really need to understand that a human being, his values, his actions, and real world events are impossible to grasp by piecing together bits and pieces on the Internet. Rushing to judgement in such a harsh way is uncalled for.
The bits and pieces I have collected about you over the years tells a much different story. You are a much valued member of a team of visionaries in my book. I will continue to support you Asa.
Posted by: matt on August 25, 2004 06:00 PMDon't let brainless trolls get to you Asa, just keep going the way you are: it's a good way.
Posted by: Fevertje on August 25, 2004 06:19 PMI would just like to criticize what one poster said above. Calling someone a Hitler or a Nazi on the internet [generally] refers to the total dictatorship Hitler opposed on his people, not the holocaust or any other death part.
Asa - how can you expect this not to happen when you make rash decisions on software which people get very passionate about?
Posted by: Mr Anon on August 25, 2004 06:25 PM[accent character="Arnold Schwarzenegger"]It's not a tumor[/accent]
- Kindergarden Cop
I didn't know which bug that was, but I should have guessed -- what other bug would have an additional comment #519? (Hint: the letters N, G, and M figure prominently in the bug -- in what order I absolutely refuse to tell.)
The comment did provide me with a bit of cynical humor, however. "Micky [sic] Mouse", eh? One of our community's most valued contributors for his deep, seriously considered insights! The only thing to do is laugh for a second, suspend the account, and move on.
Posted by: Jeff Walden on August 25, 2004 06:46 PMbeing absolutely neutral, i hereby invoke godwin's law :
As a ... discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html
this means that asa wins and micky mouse loses. whatever that means.
Posted by: kingmob on August 25, 2004 06:53 PMWell I don't know about the Hitler comment but I'll agree that your new web design resembles cancer to some extent =)
Posted by: painc on August 25, 2004 06:55 PMStupid Trolls... I still like you asa! lol
Posted by: Joey on August 25, 2004 07:06 PMAye, it's a known sociological phenomena in mediated communications -- the hi**er reference. Just one end of the pendulum Asa -- be heartened that people care.
Posted by: Andyed on August 25, 2004 07:19 PMHmm.. well, I guess he could threaten you or your family. That would be worse.
You've got a fan here... I've been "piecing together" your online person for a couple of years as I watch the Moz project and your notblog. I see you as a pretty positive and accomplished person. Ok, so Hitler was pretty accomplished. Hmmmm....
Keep up the good work (and blog)!
Posted by: eliot on August 25, 2004 07:25 PMWith the rising popularity of mozilla, allowing every tom, dick and harry to enter comments in bugzilla might not be the best solution - need some kind of screening mechanism.
In addition to the popular 'editbugs' and 'canconfirm', maybe create a new permission level called 'addcomments'. A first time user is only allowed to report new bugs. Once a user has reported a couple of good bugs, he/she can request the 'addcomments' privelege.
Posted by: vfwlkr on August 25, 2004 07:39 PMWell...
As I said about one manager at work... he got the bum rap because he was the face of some very unpopular choices the company made... as a result everyone hated him... everyone forgets he was forced to make the changes... and once you remeber that you noticed he didn't enjoy the changes or even agree with them.
And thats whats up with this. Asa is seen as the one who is drive home the remove view source, removing the theme switcher and the JS Console. People don't like change and people who use the tools that are being removed tend to shine hate down to the ones bringing chage.
Personally I think its a horriable idea to remove view source... i use it daily... the same goes for style sheet switcher. I don't care about the JS Console as I never use it... and i never use the DOM Inspector... Theme Manager... or Livemarks... to me those four itmes should be removed... but it isn't going to happen...
Still Asa is in a hard place... feel sorry for him... and feel sorry for the end user who will have to install other software in order to retain some parts of the browser they enjoy... what brought them to firefox.
Posted by: Samual Icky on August 25, 2004 08:19 PMWhy does this phraseology ring a bell and remind me of the message left on Gerv's blog abusing my identity... Asa, you have access to the guy's IP?
It's very common for extreme-rightists to compare people to diseases, or germs. The Nazi propaganda before 1945, and the current neo-nazi themes in Europe, were/are full of such images (like "these people are a disease affecting our Nation, and to cure it we need to eliminate them").
Posted by: Daniel Glazman on August 25, 2004 08:24 PMAsa, I'd have to say, if there's anyone who embodies the heart and soul of mozilla/firebird it's you. Dont let the asinine comments of some person who knows next to nothing about you or this project get to you.
Posted by: Andrew Wooldridge on August 25, 2004 10:44 PM"Asa - how can you expect this not to happen when you make rash decisions on software which people get very passionate about?"
lol
Asa isn't the only person who have anything to say about Mozilla. He doesn't have the rights of a dictator either. I think I'll stay away from whatever you've been smoking. :-)
Posted by: Jugalator on August 25, 2004 11:23 PMAsa, just ignore this troll, I think you are a pretty cool guy, from seeing you in IRC and reading your blog. Although, I won't be upgrading from 0.8 until I see the features I so love and need either made into extensions or added back in.
Posted by: Tristor on August 26, 2004 12:15 AMAsa - just ban his IP. Complexes are hard to be healed.
Posted by: gandalf on August 26, 2004 03:07 AMI'd tend to agree with gandalf.
Posted by: Hanni on August 26, 2004 03:27 AMI shall pray to the gods of Mozilla, as the heathens are to be burnt to a crisp and swallowed whole (preferrably well spiced) by our beloved Lizard.
Come on Asa, don't let a guy who can't even spell Mickey Mouse get to you! ;-)
Posted by: Markus Lindström on August 26, 2004 03:55 AMThis guy is german. Argh... :-(
Posted by: Wladimir Palant on August 26, 2004 04:41 AMWhat if Hitler got cancer?
Posted by: Somebody on August 26, 2004 06:28 AMIn Soviet Russia, cancer get YOU!
Posted by: Jugalator on August 26, 2004 07:31 AMnah, he was confused and obviously meant to write that your new blog color scheme looks like "you had cancer" and radiation treatments...
... it's obviously radioactive...
and I'm sure it must glow in the dark ;-)
From the number of comments it's not very hard to determine from which bug the comment comes from - The bug that asks the Mozilla Organisation/Foundation to re-enable the support for MNG/JNG in Mozilla (Suite/Firefox).
I don't like this kind of comments, they are counterproductive and only upset the people who read them and the person to which they are addressen, however...
The bug also has about 700 (!) votes, a huge number of CC's AND a working patch(!). Support for MNG/JNG was also part of Mozilla until (and including) version 1.4 - the complaint about the old code was that it's to large, however some people have create a version that IS smaller. And at the moment 100kilobytes isn't a problem anymore. Another complaint was about maintainers for the glue code, but from the comments I understand someone is willing to maintain this code, so that is an invalid complaint to)
(bottom line: MNG/JNG support could be re-enabled and the staff@mozilla.org should encourage the person(s) responsible for the image library to do so)
About other changes, that might result in a comparable bug (especially the CSS style sheet switcher): Please revert the removal before another bug like the MNG/JNG bug is forming.
BTW: I'm not sure how violent the reactions on bugzilla instances of other projects are. May be the reactions on bmo are this way because Mozilla is making end-user products and end-users can be very cruel in their reactions.
BTW2: May be I should file a bug i bmo about this. If votes don't count (are ignored) the option to place votes on a bug should be removed or the Mozilla Organisation should acknowledge them and accept the fixes for bugs with a huge number of vores...
Godwins law in action http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/g/GodwinsLaw.html, nothing exactly new.
Posted by: Bernd on August 26, 2004 01:10 PMoh my...did this guy compare you to spammers? now that is truly uncalled for!
Posted by: arielb on August 26, 2004 06:29 PMOn a related, but lighter note...
http://www.gozer.org/cool_stuff/video/video/Family_Guy/European_Road_Show-German_History.avi