Blake Ross has a great post over at his blog where he suggests that Firefox themes could be a real opportunity for Firefox to better target potential constituencies. I agree that if we could get some well targeted themes like unversity themes or athletic team themes (you get the idea), we'd likely see some good uptake from those students or those sports fans. What other kinds of themes would people like to see and who among you could help with something like this. I imagine that it could be team efforts, given that designing the theme, finding iconography or graphics, and assembling the theme don't necessarily have to be a one person job. Tell us what you think.
Posted by asa at July 14, 2004 08:18 PMI personally like the look of the MAC, but I prefer to use a PC. I use StyleXP to get the look of a MAC, and I also use Y'z Dock to complete the look, and also for usefulness. But If Firefox could be more MAC like, I'd love it. Sorry to say that I would no help for this cause. Wish I could though...
-AdamStac
Posted by: AdamStac on July 14, 2004 08:57 PMWhat would be immensely useful to this process is a theme template with clear instructions making it easy to create a basic theme:
in the CSS: "this is where you style the FOO widget; here are some basic rules for color and shape"
in the -moz-image-region graphics image: borders outlining icon graphics and big text saying "put the icon for the BAR widget here"
More complex themes will require more sophisticated modifications, of course (like changing the sizes of the graphics), but I think the largest hurdle for people is understanding the basic structure of a theme. Once they get that down, and if they have a working base to start from, additional layers of complexity and sophistication should be a much more gradual learning curve and one conducive to development through experimentation.
Posted by: Myk Melez on July 14, 2004 09:20 PMI make a lot of free forum templates, and have sort of thought about trying to make a firefox theme too if i can find the time.
What sort of skills do you need for it? Any tutorials/guides out there?
From what i've seen with phpbb and ipb most downloads tend to go to things that are big on flashy graphics.
Space/science fiction is often a popular theme. Also anime and fantasy. Sports don't tend to do as well as you might think. Well enough though.
Posted by: jasidog on July 14, 2004 09:27 PMI agree that there needs to be more documentation on how to make themes... it seems that most themes just change the icons and colors of the browser, I am sure taht you can do much more complicated and cooler things like have an image be the background for the toolbars and stuff like that. The only problem is that there isn't documentation for it...
Anyway, I think that the whole "theme for a sports team" / "theme for a university" / etc. idea is very good - however we should really not just release those as themes, but as separate builds with these default themes (people don't need to change them) and also with things like different homepages (if we are releasing a theme for a sports team, make it the sports team's website, for example), and different branding in terms of things like say "Buffalo Bills browser powered by Mozilla Firefox". We could do partnerships with different groups to release "special editions" of Fx that are made for those people, they could publicize it on their website too - "Download the Buffalo Bills browser".
Jason
Posted by: Jason on July 14, 2004 10:11 PMUniversity, celebrities or athletic team themes aren't cool for me, I prefer clean usable simply theme. Some minimalistic (non taking too much space, but graphically polished) would be great.
Posted by: Adam Hauner on July 14, 2004 11:28 PMMaybe it's a good idea to get someone to try to make a theme for FF now, so that we can see if it is as broken as our l10n story is.
But then again, shouldn't we have our visual identity policy ironed out and published, along with the "what can you call your build" and all that? I bet the story is allmost done, but I can't find the results with a search.
Oh, and I see someone begging for a Bauhaus-theme ;-).
Posted by: Axel Hecht on July 15, 2004 02:16 AMI poseted earlier about the "MAC-Like" theme, but I also want to add that the newest version of FF had the best theme of them all. I have looked at the other themes avaiable, and I prefer the FF default over all of them, so good job on that.
-AdamStac
I second Adam Hauner's thoughts on prefering a clean usable simple theme.
Posted by: AdamStac on July 15, 2004 04:36 AMAxel, there are dozens of themes for Firefox. See http://members.shaw.ca/lucx/ for an example. Theme switching still has some bugs, not unlike SeaMonkey, but the theming itself seems to be a considerably easier task with Firefox than SeaMonkey.
--Asa
Posted by: Asa Dotzler on July 15, 2004 05:47 AMBlake: "What trademark permissions should the Foundation pursue?"
"Netscape"?
Posted by: Greg K Nicholson on July 15, 2004 06:35 AMI actually have a similar, rebranded Mozilla 1.7 browser for my high school complex. I'm pushing our high school's principal to adopt it but I haven't had much success yet.
Posted by: jordon higa on July 16, 2004 01:40 AMI agree with Greg, it certainly couldn't hurt to have a Netscape-branded Firefox ;)
Posted by: painc on July 16, 2004 07:28 AMWhat about a Google branded Firefox? I think it would be very useful for the proliferation of Gecko to convince Google to distribute their own _browser_, instead of just focusing on a Google bar for IE.
Posted by: Wilco on July 18, 2004 10:13 AM