We've had some difficulties with our mirror network and so the 1.7 Alpha release isn't going to happen today. I'm hopeful that we'll have everything together by Monday morning and can do the release then.
I've just updated the look and feel of the What's New page. It doesn't seem to render very well in IE and I'd love it if someone that knows CSS could help me make it work in IE.
Posted by asa at February 20, 2004 06:13 PMThe source has
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<fieldset">
Although you don't see it in Mozilla' viewsource. Remove the quote and it is "better".
Why use fieldset and legend for formatting? Why not use divs with classes?
/bc
I see the rendering problem in IE, however, I downloaded the page with Firefox opened the local file in IE and it renders fine (by IE standards anyway). Very, very strange. The only coding issue I see is
A closing should be there.
Posted by: fgxh298 on February 20, 2004 09:40 PMGood catches. I've removed that extraneous " and closed the <li> tag.
Bob, I used fieldset because it was quick and dirty and gave me almost exactly what I wanted and I didn't intend to do any additional styling at first. Then I got to playing with styles and quickly realized how much fieldset sucks :-) I'll give it a go with divs and if I can make it look the same without much trouble, I'll check it in.
Posted by: Asa Dotzler on February 20, 2004 11:40 PMoh, actually this behav traces back to Netscape 4.*, who was famous for rewriting the source. It can surely be misleading, it says "View Source", not "View how I understood the source". Perhaps could be offered as an option somewhere in the settings.
Posted by: vr on February 20, 2004 11:49 PMwow asa, that looks much clearer now. please do that with the Known-Issues page too ;)
Posted by: sensemann on February 20, 2004 11:51 PMOK. I dropped the fieldsets and moved to divs and spans with fieldset and legend classes all styled to my liking. It's mostly the same and boy is it easier to style than that lame fieldset (I couldn't adjust padding within the legend at all).
If my CSS sucks, please tell me how I can make it better. I just make it up and hope it works. It really does look a lot worse in IE than the HTML fieldset and legend did, but I suppose that's the downside of getting the additional flexibility.
Posted by: Asa Dotzler on February 21, 2004 12:33 AMText selection on that page is screwy; whenever you try and select text from more than one "fieldset" box, the page moves down and suddenly you've got more text selected than you expected.
I'm using Firefox 0.8 on Windows, don't know if this is reproducable elsewhere.
Posted by: Andrew Sidwell on February 21, 2004 04:07 AMMmm, seems that if you move your extra style part out of the body and put the magin-top that is on the p on ul and add a ul ul style to correct the margin-top for sub ul items (and remove the closing div on the bottom that should not be there) your page becomes w3c validator valid and renders better on IE. Also replace -1.8em with -0.5em that seems to be the main source of redering weird on IE (but mozilla and opera also do not like it).
P.s. The speed improvment is pre string branch landing isn't it. Very cool. If 1.7b could improve even more 1.7 will be one of the coolest releases yet. Also to andrew I can reproduce your text selection problem. But I suppose that could very well be a browser bug.
Posted by: Arno on February 21, 2004 05:01 AM> I dropped the fieldsets and moved to divs and spans
Use proper headings, please. 'span' means "inline element", not "level-three heading".
You need to read http://mozilla.org/README-style.html#code
Particularly the section on Adding Style.
And I need to start making a list of pages that use weird styles so they can be dealt with if/when the main style sheet changes...
Posted by: fantasai on February 22, 2004 12:55 AMSounds like you're well on your way to figuring out the CSS issues.
I just wanted to say that I checked out the page tonight and it looks really good (in Firefox at least).
Nice work!
Posted by: Bernie Zimmermann on February 22, 2004 09:58 PM